@Purple a peasant in the Middle Ages had more freedom than we have today

@McFansy where are you from?

Bro you're posting a lot of cringe

a dystopian society known as America

so, possibly several miles from me... yet you have the freedom to talk to me.

why are there so many pedos in this world

OMG YOU ARE RIGHT. TECHNOLOGY IS ONLY A GOOD THING

It is a freedom

can we just hold an impromptu stake burning for the pedos

Id be down

Bro I think purple might be retarded lol

Jk

@Purple technology != freedom

Yes

It can be freedom.

You don't think technology gives us freedom?

Hell the cotton gin gave us freedom so we don't have to do that shit by hand

cmon

as it stands currently at least

Now you're just conflating the word freedom with ability

@Purple

Yeah I was just talking to my Alexa that spys on me about that

@McFansy Purple is just Fondboy 2.0

Don't even bother

Freedom doesn't have anything to do with your ability it has to do with how much responsibility you've been given by authority

rofl aw beer decided to come out again

the righteous authority gives you responsibility it's because they know you can control yourself and if you can control yourself, that's real liberty

So what is freedom if not the ability to do thing unimpeeded

So real freedom is self control?

Most technologies actually pretty gay because it turns everyone into a slave of their own vices

yeah real freedom is basically the ability to be disciplined because then you have real control over yourself if you don't have that control then you just an animal and you have no freedom because you're just a slave to your instincts

technologies get perverted and used as tools for profit by other people. the technologies themselves don't themselves enslave people.

Jeez you're desperate

@Purple yeah I'm not arguing that the technology is what in slaves you but it's just a proxy for laziness for human beings

if not just technology it's basically our philosophy when you use science or technology as your God instead of God Almighty then you reorient your worldview to think that freedom comes from the ability to do whatever you want rather than to do whatever is right and moral

Sure, but the laziness is a product of freedom. we don't have the leisure of laziness without it

Okay well then maybe in your mind the ability to do what you do or do not want is some subset of freedom but I don't find it that type of freedom has any merit

because ultimately the ability to do what you want comes from self-control or self-discipline which you can only have from the knowledge of what is good and evil

Ok, then it seems we have a different definition of freedom. I believe a person who is in the middle of the woods, naked, is absolutely free

I just want a society that will allow me to become enslaved to heroin and not judge me for it