Message from @Overman

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2017-01-29 02:20:50 UTC  

"Hitler"

2017-01-29 02:20:58 UTC  

In my hometown's local room, shit's getting real bizarre. Like, I explained that I'm a white nationalist who's opposed to the Jewish oligarchs, and then the opposition claimed I was just like Trump so then half the town was on my side.

2017-01-29 02:21:29 UTC  

kek

2017-01-29 02:21:38 UTC  

You know

2017-01-29 02:21:49 UTC  

On facebook, that's how it plays out. You can say whatever edgelord shit you want, and as long as the normies can figure out you're basically on the Trump side, they've got your back against the Hillary supporters.

2017-01-29 02:21:54 UTC  

Maybe in an ironic fashion, the polarization over Trump's election actually is shifting the Overton window.

2017-01-29 02:22:16 UTC  

Not quite enough yet, but still

2017-01-29 02:22:21 UTC  

I think it's all for the win as long as the leadership don't waffle on the principles and don't lose sight of the goals.

2017-01-29 02:22:33 UTC  

Lots of opportunities.

2017-01-29 02:22:37 UTC  

Well, here on the streets you can easily get people to agree Hitler should have won (If you ask people if 'we' should have won, there's no way anyone will say "no" if they're not straight up red) but then have reservation towards NRM because we're tight with Swedes.

2017-01-29 02:22:37 UTC  

lol

2017-01-29 02:22:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274535531927568384/275088347846934528/RwARZM8.png

2017-01-29 02:23:32 UTC  

It's all dependent on how much nuance is allowed for a label or a set of views.

2017-01-29 02:23:57 UTC  

USA affords none for us, as I stated before, but that may be changing.

2017-01-29 02:24:05 UTC  

I mean look at the Spencer incident

2017-01-29 02:24:10 UTC  

MFW fucking Posobiec links NRM

2017-01-29 02:24:26 UTC  

I'm not too fond of the concept of a overton window

2017-01-29 02:24:40 UTC  

It's real and has merit but it debatably doesn't matter

2017-01-29 02:24:43 UTC  

@parrott Citizens For Trump = Literal Hitler

2017-01-29 02:24:49 UTC  

let me finish ffs

2017-01-29 02:24:52 UTC  

I am lol

2017-01-29 02:24:57 UTC  

it's text you can't be talked over

2017-01-29 02:25:04 UTC  

fuck u

2017-01-29 02:25:06 UTC  

anyway

2017-01-29 02:25:15 UTC  

the original overton window is bullshit

2017-01-29 02:25:24 UTC  

it's not about pushing boundaries in political discourse

2017-01-29 02:25:34 UTC  

it's simply a matter of what you can get away with (without being ostracised, beaten up or jailed)

2017-01-29 02:25:50 UTC  

and as it stands, you can't get away with any sort of racism or nazism in the USA

2017-01-29 02:25:57 UTC  

so no, the window hasn't moved

2017-01-29 02:27:30 UTC  

Are we allowed to chat yet?

2017-01-29 02:27:35 UTC  

It's impossible to give a worldwide standard for changing political discourse. Overton window is bullshit. It's a zero sum game, either you get away with it or you don't, there isn't, shouldn't and can't be a standard for it, if you're smart, you recognize it.

2017-01-29 02:28:39 UTC  

For example, MP can survive hanging out with us, while posting even friatider will get you fired in Sweden: http://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finns_party_mp_poses_with_national_socialists_at_memorial/8084384

2017-01-29 02:28:51 UTC  

To state that the window of acceptable discourse in public hasn't changed in the past couple years is absurd.

I've literally got multiple high school classmates liking my fashy social media posts and lamenting the refugee crisis, black crime, and Jewish bankers.

2017-01-29 02:29:04 UTC  

But then again, you couldn't directly link to our stuff. You have to maintain this air of plausable deniability

2017-01-29 02:29:45 UTC  

overton window states that public discourse changes when people start discussing increasingly extreme subjects

2017-01-29 02:30:01 UTC  

what happened in the US is simply a change of circumstances and issues perceived by the people

2017-01-29 02:30:17 UTC  

it didn't happen by gradually hammering anti-immigration talks on their ears

2017-01-29 02:30:23 UTC  

I was just defining it broadly by what is socially acceptable to talk about at least without being blanket-banned from the media/most people

2017-01-29 02:30:40 UTC  

maybe normies are a good frame of reference to use

2017-01-29 02:31:12 UTC  

well, yeah