Message from @Kaytee

Discord ID: 344236730401947658


2017-08-07 21:43:55 UTC  

>some people genuinely believe this

2017-08-07 21:45:10 UTC  

The Chinese will simply steal whatever Intel or AMD or even IBM makes, they aren't going to be making any OC ever

2017-08-07 21:45:54 UTC  

i mean tbh

2017-08-07 21:46:13 UTC  

i'd expect the chinese graphics cards are just reference design but with some cheaper parts

2017-08-07 21:46:21 UTC  

probably more cheaply made pcbg as well

2017-08-07 21:46:40 UTC  

not about to drop money on any to verify that but

2017-08-07 21:47:40 UTC  

by cheaper parts i'm talking like "hey why get the $0.01 resistor for R25 when we could get the $0.001 one

2017-08-07 21:47:48 UTC  

not "let's use a cheaper gpu and mislabel it:"

2017-08-07 21:47:58 UTC  

It'll work probably but no one really thinks it's going to be anything but a much cheaper and slightly lower performance intel card

2017-08-07 21:48:23 UTC  

"why use a $4 fan in the cooler when we could use a $2 fan

2017-08-07 21:48:51 UTC  

"silkscreen on the pcb? who even looks at those, leave it off"

2017-08-07 21:49:24 UTC  

"let's make this slave child drill out the board instead of the expensive robot" is also a possibility

2017-08-07 21:50:57 UTC  

the fact that they still cost a few hundred tells me they're using legit amd/intel/nvidia gpus on the chinese video cards since that one part is nearly the entire cost of the card

2017-08-07 21:50:58 UTC  

They legit bought some old CPU architecture (most likely for next to nothing) and upgraded it. It was dirt cheap to manufacture (not paying for the intel inside sticker), so they can easily get a powerful supercomputer. Just increase the number of CPUs in the machine until you get acceptable performance.
Source: my father who is in the supercomputer business (as a buyer).

2017-08-07 21:51:12 UTC  

also yeah china does actually design stuff too

2017-08-07 21:51:32 UTC  

just they aren't sitting there designing their own gpus then labeling them as nvidia/amd

2017-08-07 21:51:40 UTC  

there's no reason for them to so they will not

2017-08-07 21:52:30 UTC  

malware on the hardware? no point spending so much on engineering for something that simple

2017-08-07 21:52:53 UTC  

hardwarewise you can do that with an off the shelf part that costs a few cents

2017-08-07 21:53:17 UTC  

so software engineering only instead of that _and_ designing new expensive part

2017-08-07 21:53:52 UTC  

just grab yourself a bootleg microcontroller out of shenzhen and you have everything you need

2017-08-07 22:35:55 UTC  

Aren't Zotac and Colorful chink GPU vendors? They're probably just Colorful factory rejects

2017-08-07 22:36:23 UTC  

and colorful are already trash tier right?

2017-08-07 22:36:35 UTC  

Zotac are okay, no idea about them

2017-08-07 22:36:43 UTC  

They rarely pop up

2017-08-07 22:36:58 UTC  

yeah zotac are legit but colorful always seem off from my impressions, not that i have many

2017-08-07 22:37:09 UTC  

Sapphire are chink too

2017-08-07 22:37:21 UTC  

They look like Sapphire design to me

2017-08-07 22:37:32 UTC  

Maybe just Sapphire rejects

2017-08-07 22:38:10 UTC  

The 580 looks like a black spray painted Sapphire cooler

2017-08-07 22:39:27 UTC  

the sapphire rx580 was actually pretty nice looking iirc, not much gamer aesthetic

2017-08-07 22:39:38 UTC  

unless they had different versions

2017-08-07 22:39:52 UTC  

Yeah I've always bought their cards

2017-08-07 22:40:05 UTC  

Never had an issue

2017-08-07 22:40:58 UTC  

comfy you know when you put "historical low" on your hot deals, how you keeping track of that?

2017-08-07 22:47:27 UTC  

They sometimes bother to put it in the listing

2017-08-07 22:48:05 UTC  

But I've noticed they'll pretend some other deals didn't exist to make the current one look better

2017-08-07 22:48:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/189466684938125312/344250429498064897/Screenshot_20170807-234656.png

2017-08-07 22:48:36 UTC  

Is this a chink face mask?

2017-08-07 22:48:44 UTC  

smash that mf'in buy now button

2017-08-07 22:49:00 UTC  

yeah they wear those on the underground