@Millie what do you mean?

Millie, that's me.

There's a special shipping method that avoids customs tax for shipping to Germany.

ive nevre been hit by customs yet

My chinkphone got taxed because I used express shipping

i'm not german though unfortunately

Maybe there's an alternative for you

A similar thing for your country

i don't know.

i'm wacking my brain right now

aliexpress one is from china but includes tablet, keyboard and stylus but risking customs + long wait time

gearbest is from europe but no keyboard or stylus and the tablet alone is expensive

EMS seems to be most likely to dodge customs from experience but you're paying more off the bat, so it's likely just doing customs up front.

right

SKMEI 1251 arrived today. Super thick. I wish it was a bit slimmer.

@Cole no chinamen in my local area that dont make Chinese food, sad!

@johnfrum ask those to fix your phone

@xnanigans the shipping method Millie is talking about is Priority Line

they ship to their own customs point/warehouse thing

and no VAT

and GB brought it back just a couple of days ago

so its ur lucky day

I don't know. I really don't know. I'm seeing that either way the price ends up more or less the same. What I don't pay for customs and etc in gearbest, I pay for it in accessories that are not bundled.

I'm just going to get raped by china

if you use priority line you dont get hit by vat iirc

doesnt look like priority line is back for all items, though

yeah but what i mean is I don't pay for vat but I pay for the rest of the parts separately which are the same price as getting a bundle from ali + customs

you can ask the seller if he can help you avoid taxes

they write a smaller price on the package

and you just need to photoshop the receipt

It's Chuwi

holup

both in gearbest and aliexpress the seller is supposedly official chuwi

man im gonna go for a smoke this shit is wacking my brain

guys, just to be sure, when an order is closed by exeding 60 days on Ali, I can still dispute the chink for a refund ?

I think you can for like 15 days

not 100% sure

heeee I opened a dispute now just to be sure

I can still leave it open and wait the end of the order

ye you'll get extended buyers protection

I've got like 5 orders that are 4 days from being closed, I guess I should dispute em all, right? Every single one of those appear to be still in china (handed to ailine/picked up by freight/etc)