They've both got buttersmooth nibs, and have excellent flow. They also feel great in the hand.

@nitrokojote is x450 heavy enough? I love heavy pens

It's 43g.

In total.

that's alright

i might get a twsbi vac next

i just like the mechanism

I'd recommend the Jinhao 650 but mine came with a bad feed, so I had to replace it with a spare ebony one I had lying around

I think the 159 is supposed to be bigger/heavier than the 450. Never owned one myself.

tbh chinese pens are so cheap just buy a bunch of them

means you dont have to worry about getting a shit nib as well

Chinese fountain pens are actually some good shit too

yeah

Especially Jinhao and Hero

especially now they have the pilot 78g nib tooling

Duke's also a solid choice.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BgmFXBuhzN6/

X450 was my first fountain pen.

Ooh that's pretty.

Looks like TWSBI holy fuck

if you want a cheap twsbi/piston filler

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wing-Sung-698-Demonstrator-Piston-Fountain-Pen-0-38mm-0-5mm-Valentines-Day-Gift/122548174407?var=&hash=item1c8870be47

I think my first was a 616 10-pack

they're not very durable but neither are twsbi kek

mine was prob a safari

TWSBI are made in Taiwan. They aren't too durable.

You also have to clean it with a very light mixture of water and soap.

i just let mine stain

Most of their Diamond series had issues with parts breaking during assembly/dissasembly.

yeah my 540 had problems

i think my 580 did too?

My 540 broke.

not sure what happened to that

if i lost it

The piston fucking *snapped*

or if it's bits

lol

at least the wing sung 698 is cheap

Didn't take any force either, and I lubricated the fucking thing

I'm horrible at choosing ink colors. I just use the Hero 232 blue/black

i stick with j herbin