Message from @Goz3rr

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2018-09-08 15:55:52 UTC  

Now post arm emulation on x86

2018-09-08 15:56:26 UTC  

So ARM is slower but has lower power consumption... right? @bentech

2018-09-08 15:56:55 UTC  

Also wait didn't ARM exist way, way before x86?

2018-09-08 15:56:57 UTC  

ok don't think of it as purely arm vs x86

2018-09-08 15:57:02 UTC  

it all depends chip to chip

2018-09-08 15:57:14 UTC  

just no one has ever done a high power arm core

2018-09-08 15:57:26 UTC  

Yeah but

2018-09-08 15:57:33 UTC  

x86 was developed when ARM already existed

2018-09-08 15:57:42 UTC  

and from what you said it sounds like x86 is harder to make

2018-09-08 15:57:43 UTC  

no

2018-09-08 15:57:44 UTC  

why isthat?

2018-09-08 15:57:46 UTC  

x86 outdates arm

2018-09-08 15:57:57 UTC  

are you sure?

2018-09-08 15:58:01 UTC  
2018-09-08 15:58:05 UTC  

1978

2018-09-08 15:58:17 UTC  

of course instruictons for that wouldnt work today on modern cpus but you get the point

2018-09-08 15:58:28 UTC  

they would

2018-09-08 15:58:36 UTC  

that's most people's gripe with x86

2018-09-08 15:58:39 UTC  

it completely bloated

2018-09-08 15:58:43 UTC  

with all the old instructions

2018-09-08 15:58:47 UTC  

most are completely pointless or slow as tits

2018-09-08 15:58:50 UTC  

but they are there

2018-09-08 15:58:55 UTC  

yte pretty much

2018-09-08 15:59:10 UTC  

but why are x86 harder to make then?

2018-09-08 15:59:15 UTC  

licensing

2018-09-08 15:59:19 UTC  

because you have to be amd or intel

2018-09-08 15:59:20 UTC  

So the only reason x86 exists is legacy stuff?

2018-09-08 15:59:25 UTC  

oh

2018-09-08 15:59:26 UTC  

intel invented it

2018-09-08 15:59:32 UTC  

amd got to use it because they made x86-64

2018-09-08 15:59:37 UTC  

and intel decided to trade them for it basically

2018-09-08 16:00:33 UTC  

So wait is ARM used in servers?

2018-09-08 16:00:40 UTC  

there's been attempts at it

2018-09-08 16:00:43 UTC  

but none truly sucessful

2018-09-08 16:00:47 UTC  

I was always under the impression x86 is more complicated

2018-09-08 16:00:52 UTC  

except in specalist roles

2018-09-08 16:00:54 UTC  

e.g

2018-09-08 16:00:55 UTC  

routing

2018-09-08 16:01:30 UTC  

there's also https://riscv.org/ which is gaining steam

2018-09-08 16:01:40 UTC  

So... x86 can generally work on broader tasks, while ARM is more specialised?

2018-09-08 16:01:45 UTC  

do I understand that correctly?