Message from @Ape

Discord ID: 454151221201338392


2018-06-07 05:11:01 UTC  

well that's why we structure our society to prevent harmful actors

2018-06-07 05:11:05 UTC  

Well no, that was to raven

2018-06-07 05:11:06 UTC  

read the federalist papers

2018-06-07 05:11:18 UTC  

Ok, so lets go beyond that.

2018-06-07 05:11:26 UTC  

What if an individual is a harmful actor outside of an ideological sphere?

2018-06-07 05:11:42 UTC  

No, Liberty (IE the freedom from oppression) is the highest value

2018-06-07 05:12:04 UTC  

@CelestialMorningLight ok, so then you shouldn't let people be oppressed by gender identity

2018-06-07 05:12:07 UTC  

we need to destroy gender.

2018-06-07 05:12:17 UTC  

that's the only way to get true freedom.

2018-06-07 05:13:03 UTC  

@Ape It needs to be demonstrated that there *is* any oppression there to begin with

2018-06-07 05:13:12 UTC  

it's clear that there is.

2018-06-07 05:13:24 UTC  

I want to be a non gendar alien kin, and society doesn't respect that decision.

2018-06-07 05:13:29 UTC  

That curtails my personal freedom to be what I want.

2018-06-07 05:13:33 UTC  

that's oppression.

2018-06-07 05:13:50 UTC  

I should have ultimate freedom to do what I want.

2018-06-07 05:14:01 UTC  

oppression

[uh-presh-uh n]

SynonymsExamplesWord Origin

See more synonyms on Thesaurus.comnounthe exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner.

2018-06-07 05:14:03 UTC  

lol, you are free to call yourself what ever you want, we have no control over other people.

2018-06-07 05:14:30 UTC  

Can you demonstrate that there is oppression as by the definition?

2018-06-07 05:14:38 UTC  

yeah, its people forcing their gender identity on others that is the problem

2018-06-07 05:14:47 UTC  

mandaterd pronouns, etc

2018-06-07 05:14:48 UTC  

Well, depends on your definition on burdensome, cruel or unjust.

2018-06-07 05:14:53 UTC  

At this point we're just splitting hairs

2018-06-07 05:15:01 UTC  

i am an attack helicopter, doesn't mean people have to respect my personal choice.

2018-06-07 05:15:14 UTC  

so lets say I think that society not letting me have my drivers license say "dragonkin" is burdensome.

2018-06-07 05:15:20 UTC  

No, I gave you the definition and now you're backpedaling

2018-06-07 05:15:27 UTC  

Celestial, don't be a stupid faggot.

2018-06-07 05:15:37 UTC  

I'm using your defintion you little winy cuck.

2018-06-07 05:16:23 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428940051896860672/454151618426830850/image.png

2018-06-07 05:16:36 UTC  

Lets say that people mocking me is a form of verbal abuse, and while I don't think that government should mandate people respect me, we should have social campaigns to push drankonkin acceptance and socially isolate people who disagree.

2018-06-07 05:16:36 UTC  

sure, you can advocate for wanting to have drgaonkin on your drivers license.

2018-06-07 05:17:00 UTC  

if you think that's burdensome, go create a poltical advocacy group to get the law changed.

2018-06-07 05:17:12 UTC  

Lets say that we as people decide to start boycotting anyone who disagree, and start driving people out of business, creating a corporate culture where only people who agree with me can thrive

2018-06-07 05:17:20 UTC  

SuperPACs exist.

2018-06-07 05:17:23 UTC  

essentially meaning that you cannot express that idea in public without getting fired.

2018-06-07 05:17:27 UTC  

I can't type for shit on this phone, come into voice

2018-06-07 05:17:31 UTC  

no

2018-06-07 05:17:33 UTC  

bf's home.

2018-06-07 05:18:03 UTC  

I'm sure he won't mind, ask him for permission

2018-06-07 05:18:11 UTC  

not that he'll mind

2018-06-07 05:18:23 UTC  

more like I don't like having autistic conversations while boo's home

2018-06-07 05:18:38 UTC  

Okay