BUT

to say that without plato there would not have been any aristoteles

is to fall into the grand fucking TRAP that asshat plato laid

and to fall into the historicist argument

\which

is

complete

and

uitter

garbage

as I said, rembo fucking out

hey don't talk to benedict that way

he's our internet pope

show some respect

never

ni dieu

ni maitre

also

the only popes I recognize are discordian

if you folks havent figure out that much about me by now, good fucking luck

**INQUISITION INTENSIFIES**

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hang on this has already been done

I mean, sure, is it possible that Aristotle, or someone else would have said the same things had there never been a Plato? Presumably. But we could never know. That's why historical analysis that asks "What might have happened had this person/event/phenomena not existed?" is always purely speculative. Because, we can't empirically test history against anything else.

Even if you had a supercomputer to simulate alternative histories, the computer script to simulate those events would have to make assumptions about how historical events interact.

So, the only "scientific" way to talk about history is purely observational.

And historically speaking, the fact that Plato, and especially the Republic, was foundational to the Western philosophical tradition is undeniable. Much of Aristotle's work was commentaries on Plato.

be ready for an essay boys:

And that's why I'm doing a series on the Republic. Because, I come from the Western Philosophical Tradition and so understanding my thought, (and my interpretation of other's thought) requires some familiarity with the basic touchstones of that tradition.

a series? where, may I ask?

On my channel.

youtube.

youtube?

could I has link

you should sub him on patreon too

nothing personally against you Benedict , but your patreon count is a little bit pathetic

http://www.youtube.com/c/BenedictXVII

I've just started teaching myself on ancient/classical philosophy, so a series like that would be really interesting for me, so thanks

Yeah, hopefully I'll get book I out this week. And hopefully every two weeks or so add something to that series.

*such a tiny little patreon with so much potential i want to water and watch it grow*