and hardly any goddamn help

rembo fucking OUT!

i know it wasnt hate

No Aristotle without Plato.
Democritus is a bitch.
And Socrates was the forerunner to Plato.

i only really shitpost because i find it easier to interact that way

now you see

plato was a bitch

and it may be true that much of what we know of socrates we know THROUGH plato]

or rather i find it hard to interact otherwise

BUT

to say that without plato there would not have been any aristoteles

is to fall into the grand fucking TRAP that asshat plato laid

and to fall into the historicist argument

\which

is

complete

and

uitter

garbage

as I said, rembo fucking out

hey don't talk to benedict that way

he's our internet pope

show some respect

never

ni dieu

ni maitre

also

the only popes I recognize are discordian

if you folks havent figure out that much about me by now, good fucking luck

**INQUISITION INTENSIFIES**

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Made by calvinism gang

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hang on this has already been done

I mean, sure, is it possible that Aristotle, or someone else would have said the same things had there never been a Plato? Presumably. But we could never know. That's why historical analysis that asks "What might have happened had this person/event/phenomena not existed?" is always purely speculative. Because, we can't empirically test history against anything else.

Even if you had a supercomputer to simulate alternative histories, the computer script to simulate those events would have to make assumptions about how historical events interact.

So, the only "scientific" way to talk about history is purely observational.

And historically speaking, the fact that Plato, and especially the Republic, was foundational to the Western philosophical tradition is undeniable. Much of Aristotle's work was commentaries on Plato.

be ready for an essay boys:

And that's why I'm doing a series on the Republic. Because, I come from the Western Philosophical Tradition and so understanding my thought, (and my interpretation of other's thought) requires some familiarity with the basic touchstones of that tradition.

a series? where, may I ask?

On my channel.