Message from @Wiz

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2019-01-14 16:12:08 UTC  

Well that would be an actual test of your morality, no?

2019-01-14 16:12:53 UTC  

Everything else can be considered ego centric, which doesn't elevate you very far above your monkey cousins

2019-01-14 16:13:25 UTC  

If anything, you may be below them in that case, as the killer monkey is at least honest about his nature

2019-01-14 16:13:37 UTC  

Humans are killer monkeys

2019-01-14 16:13:52 UTC  

I'm aware

2019-01-14 16:13:56 UTC  

But if I was a pedophile or a murderer I wouldn't want to go to jail

2019-01-14 16:14:00 UTC  

but I'm not one...

2019-01-14 16:15:05 UTC  

That's fine, but it makes your code of morality extremely weak, as it exists only to serve yourself

2019-01-14 16:17:26 UTC  

it's not

2019-01-14 16:17:50 UTC  

Just the nozick "what if you were a person you don't like" thing is retarded

2019-01-14 16:18:38 UTC  

I'm not an immoral person or a normie, if I was I wouldn't have the capability to comprehend or even hold the views of them so I'd just want whatever's best for me

2019-01-14 16:18:53 UTC  

would I deserve the same fate I want for them yes does that mean I'd want it obviously not

2019-01-14 16:19:21 UTC  

What should your code of morality serve, if not yourself?

2019-01-14 16:19:45 UTC  

There are many types of morality

2019-01-14 16:20:03 UTC  

Almost all are either humanist or religious

2019-01-14 16:20:18 UTC  

some are life-centric, extending morality to animals and the natural world

2019-01-14 16:20:57 UTC  

The latter is probably closest to mine

2019-01-14 16:21:01 UTC  

NATURE RULES ALL.

2019-01-14 16:21:27 UTC  

Me as well

2019-01-14 16:21:43 UTC  

but I'm not an atheist

2019-01-14 16:21:46 UTC  

Nature doesn't care about your morality though

2019-01-14 16:21:54 UTC  

Du

2019-01-14 16:21:55 UTC  

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2019-01-14 16:21:58 UTC  

Duh

2019-01-14 16:22:05 UTC  

My morality is based on nature

2019-01-14 16:22:12 UTC  

So what do you think that says?

2019-01-14 16:22:16 UTC  

So extending morality to nature is a little strange?

2019-01-14 16:22:25 UTC  

brainlet post

2019-01-14 16:22:37 UTC  

Vegans are an example of those who extend morality to nature

2019-01-14 16:23:01 UTC  

A fetus or a (literal) retard doesn't care about your morality either

2019-01-14 16:23:16 UTC  

Also another good example would probably be the US's branches of land management as well

2019-01-14 16:24:04 UTC  

If who you apply morality to is only the people and things who can reciprocate then it's just as self serving as not caring about them

2019-01-14 16:24:19 UTC  

If Fetuses dont acknowledge my morality, we should abort them

2019-01-14 16:24:24 UTC  

lol

2019-01-14 16:24:34 UTC  

Is that how the social contract works

2019-01-14 16:24:36 UTC  

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2019-01-14 16:24:53 UTC  

Sorry i couldnt help but make that joke

2019-01-14 16:24:56 UTC  

That is how the humanists breach their own morality, yes

2019-01-14 16:25:15 UTC  

"You have certain human rights, unless you refuse to acknowledge them"

2019-01-14 16:25:28 UTC  

"Then we are permitted to breach your rights"

2019-01-14 16:25:54 UTC  

I don't like the "consent" based morality