Message from @laurefinwë

Discord ID: 548197535601262615


2019-02-21 05:51:09 UTC  

<:kek:519747357076881408>

2019-02-21 05:53:16 UTC  

Get rekt

2019-02-21 05:55:41 UTC  

Oops

2019-02-21 06:35:39 UTC  

That one gave me a heart attack

2019-02-21 06:35:47 UTC  

Thought I knew the guy for a bit

2019-02-21 06:36:04 UTC  

<:whew:519750064076226561>

2019-02-21 09:25:04 UTC  

Man that's just sad

2019-02-21 09:25:22 UTC  

Throwing your life and career away for some arbitrary shit

2019-02-21 09:56:30 UTC  

>arbitrary shit

2019-02-21 09:56:34 UTC  

for you

2019-02-21 13:25:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/519738825237331979/548133141429223454/52439603_393666851193882_5031801384106721280_n.png

2019-02-21 16:56:00 UTC  

Gotta love people crying wolf so when this actually happens nobody cares.

2019-02-21 16:56:11 UTC  

Works very well for my side of politics.

2019-02-21 17:17:03 UTC  

so is anyone here legitimately ilb-left? this is a conservative server mostly right?

2019-02-21 17:19:47 UTC  

Afaik no, of the leftists we've had/have here, they're usually commies or some flavour of anarchist.

2019-02-21 17:40:47 UTC  

ilb-left?

2019-02-21 17:41:17 UTC  

And I'm a leftist

2019-02-21 17:42:23 UTC  

I think he means liberal

2019-02-21 17:42:40 UTC  

Ew

2019-02-21 17:42:42 UTC  

Like an unironic Trudeau-style feminist shitlib.

2019-02-21 17:43:52 UTC  

Feminism's ok, but definitely not the liberal subtype

2019-02-21 17:44:28 UTC  

Liberal feminists and left feminists don't like each other too much from what I've seen, at least here

2019-02-21 17:44:45 UTC  

There's no difference between them as far as I'm concerned.

2019-02-21 17:45:17 UTC  

There's nothing for feminists to fight for in western countries so now they're fighting to have more rights than men have.

2019-02-21 17:45:27 UTC  

When I'm back I can post here some shitstorm that happened between these two year ago
It was fucking hilarious

2019-02-21 17:45:37 UTC  

Sure

2019-02-21 17:47:26 UTC  

I'd debate if today's feminism is about fighting for any rights
I mean, here they fight for some rights, but they are mostly rights that are a standard in the West
Feminism here is more about social change and other similar bullshit

2019-02-21 17:48:10 UTC  

My favorite will always be the earnings gap.

2019-02-21 17:48:22 UTC  

Because it's entirely in their control, they just wont work the same hours as men do.

2019-02-21 17:48:31 UTC  

And just to say I'm not a feminist (and tbh I don't really treat "male feminists" seriously and I think that feminists are more often than not delusional
But I kind of like it tbh

2019-02-21 17:48:41 UTC  

What do you mean by the hours thing?

2019-02-21 17:49:03 UTC  

In a measurement of total earnings, men earn more than women. Men also spend more time at work than women do.

2019-02-21 17:49:12 UTC  

Oh, this

2019-02-21 17:49:22 UTC  

Working overtime, that sort of thing.

2019-02-21 17:49:45 UTC  

Jobs that just come with long hours attached are pretty male dominated.

2019-02-21 17:53:35 UTC  

The thing with earinng gap is that most of people (both those who agree with the whole thing and those who don't) don't understand it
Earning gap can only be analysed between exactly the same jobs
So, if the man and the woman (it doesn't necessarily have to be gender-based though) do the same work, and one of them gets paid better, there is an earning gap
(of course, there are also other market factors to consider, so this is a very simplified model)
And that was measured, and the gap actually exists

2019-02-21 17:54:07 UTC  

It's kind of expected in capitalist system for many reasons, mostly because women can get pregnant and that's a burden for a capitalist