Message from @laurefinwë

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2019-05-13 18:04:25 UTC  

This is, in essence, a type of violence. If you lie to a girl in order to get her into bed with you, you are using instrumental language to achieve a specific goal, and the only thing seperating you from the guy who would just rape her is how honest you're being about your intentions

2019-05-13 18:05:45 UTC  

But this of course has many uses. If you punch your girlfriend and tell everyone why "she was asking for it", you are again employing instrumental language. It is an attempt to control the narrative, because you are protecting your interest in not being seen as "the bad guy"

2019-05-13 18:05:57 UTC  

-_-

2019-05-13 18:06:12 UTC  

You will see this everywhere, once you understand the difference

2019-05-13 18:07:28 UTC  

I don't know what's your point though, are you even referring to what I said before or are you just saying?

2019-05-13 18:07:39 UTC  

And so it is not the violence that is attractive, the physical violence usually achieves its aim, ie. the victim shuts down. Then you play the narrative game, and normalize what happened.

2019-05-13 18:09:01 UTC  

Yes, I am. I am explaining how it is allowed to propagate despite it not being in women's best interest to have violent boyfriends

2019-05-13 18:14:22 UTC  

I'm not sure if you understood what I meant by "violence is attractive"
It's all about producing strong offsprings and "maybe he's violent but he would never hurt ME" which obviously never turns out to be true beside maybe in the case of bad bois from teenage romance novels

And there's no much difference between physical, psychological and verbal violence, I'm not sure why do you think I only meant physical, it's usually all connected and all these types exist since ever so there isn't any substantial shift from physical to other types of violence recently

2019-05-13 18:15:03 UTC  

So we're back to this again. Okay

2019-05-13 18:16:43 UTC  

Who do you think understands better that "he might be violent but he'd never hurt me" is never true better? You or the girl with 5 violent exes? Genuinely asking here

2019-05-13 18:16:48 UTC  

okay guys...

2019-05-13 18:17:02 UTC  

*abuse* can be nonviolent, but violence is *by definition* physical

2019-05-13 18:17:16 UTC  

I just gave you another definition

2019-05-13 18:17:25 UTC  

your definition is fucking stupid

2019-05-13 18:17:31 UTC  

"verbal violence" ist a thing dude

2019-05-13 18:17:36 UTC  

You are free to think so

2019-05-13 18:17:40 UTC  

no matter how you try to explain it, that doest make it true.

2019-05-13 18:17:54 UTC  

But I'm afraid this conversation will not benefit either of us in that case

2019-05-13 18:18:02 UTC  

I can give a longwinded explaination about how I can survive off of sunlight and air alone, but just because i say alot doesnt mean I have a point

2019-05-13 18:20:15 UTC  

Oh man, the libertarian jew strikes again

2019-05-13 18:21:23 UTC  

Yes, violence doesn't have to be physical and I don't give a shit about your NAP definition, terms like "verbal violence" and "economical violence" describe real things and there's a reason they were coined in the first place

2019-05-13 18:23:23 UTC  

Verbal violence tends to cover things like threats, insults that are meant to shut down conversation etc.

2019-05-13 18:23:38 UTC  

That isn't what Han means when he talks about instrumental language though

2019-05-13 18:24:20 UTC  

He is describing a type of violence that can take place even if two people are arguing opposing views without insulting or threatening each other

2019-05-13 18:24:33 UTC  

Because his point is not one about morals

2019-05-13 18:25:54 UTC  

It is simply an observation about behaviour, and how violence that used to be apparent on the street is incorporated intercranially

2019-05-13 18:51:33 UTC  

I don't see much difference tbh

2019-05-14 01:08:46 UTC  

It’s all shits and giggles until someone figures out a way to implement an actual Anarcho fascist government

2019-05-14 01:09:29 UTC  

Voluntary fascism and voluntary classes based on desires for economic freedom or economic security

2019-05-14 01:11:33 UTC  

You guys know she's nuts right. She opened a school to teach you to talk to angels or some shit a few years ago

2019-05-14 01:14:59 UTC  

Product of incest
Not delusional

Pick one

2019-05-14 01:15:37 UTC  

I think they're danish jews or something, that's gotta do a number on you

2019-05-14 01:16:40 UTC  

Wew lad

2019-05-14 01:17:42 UTC  

The only people with the amount of incest defects as royalty
Jews
They inbred so much they turned their religion into a race

2019-05-14 01:18:13 UTC  

they turned their race into a religion*

2019-05-14 01:18:46 UTC  

I'll turn you into a race if you're not careful root

2019-05-14 01:19:11 UTC  

Shut up retard

2019-05-14 01:21:35 UTC  

Classy

2019-05-14 01:23:57 UTC  

Make sure your descendants are expelled from every country they enter for the next 1000 years

2019-05-14 01:24:15 UTC  

>leaving your country