Message from @otarigamer

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2019-02-17 16:04:45 UTC  

It's real

2019-02-17 16:04:49 UTC  

climate change is real, but a carbon tax is not the solution.

2019-02-17 16:04:52 UTC  

Too much evidence

2019-02-17 16:05:05 UTC  

communism as it was proposed by Marx and Engels is basically anarchism with a collectivist slant

2019-02-17 16:05:11 UTC  

Climate change is real. Air pollution is real. But taxing aint it chief

2019-02-17 16:05:25 UTC  

^

2019-02-17 16:05:27 UTC  

If you appeal to authority then you'll believe climate change is man made.

2019-02-17 16:05:44 UTC  

Climate change has a large backing because of funding

2019-02-17 16:06:07 UTC  

That said, 72% of pollution is caused by corporations

2019-02-17 16:06:15 UTC  
2019-02-17 16:06:38 UTC  

@Stryker that is a kind of misleading statistic, though

2019-02-17 16:06:45 UTC  

There's no empirical or statistical evidence for human influence on climate in such a substantial enough way that it is a threat to humanity.

2019-02-17 16:06:46 UTC  

Carbon taxes are a punishment, we should spend the same but reward companies who self regulate and don't emmit

2019-02-17 16:06:49 UTC  

much of that pollution is caused by the manufacture of consumption goods

2019-02-17 16:07:31 UTC  

Ayo carbon taxes, you breath too much? Now you will be fined

2019-02-17 16:07:37 UTC  

Have a nice day

2019-02-17 16:08:14 UTC  

I thought gore said cause of climate change ice would melt.. fake news

2019-02-17 16:09:10 UTC  

Gore isn't a scientist

2019-02-17 16:09:17 UTC  

He's a politician

2019-02-17 16:17:22 UTC  

Gore said the Earth would die in 2016

2019-02-17 16:18:33 UTC  

😂 🙄 😂 😂

2019-02-17 16:19:29 UTC  

Some say fast growth of co2 will make a short hot-period... (less than 20y) - but then a fast ice-age

2019-02-17 16:20:12 UTC  

This was in a way a mainstream-belief still in 60-80s

2019-02-17 16:20:26 UTC  

what changed then?

2019-02-17 16:20:35 UTC  

We learned more

2019-02-17 16:20:49 UTC  

but what more??

2019-02-17 16:21:04 UTC  

It is kept oddly silent

2019-02-17 16:21:16 UTC  

why isn't it so anymore

2019-02-17 16:21:46 UTC  

and in 20 years will they "learn back" to it?

2019-02-17 16:22:28 UTC  

maybe they lost the way to know like nasa lost teh tech

2019-02-17 16:22:36 UTC  

ugh

2019-02-17 16:22:42 UTC  

thats a persistent myth

2019-02-17 16:23:13 UTC  

i think carbon tax is an excuse to fund the new world order

2019-02-17 16:23:22 UTC  

NASA didnt 'lose the tech', NASA lost the ability to replicate pieces of technology that are by all means ridiculously outdated, just like volkswagen cant churn out a 1969 beetle any more, and moog doesnt have the tools to build a 1969 system 55

2019-02-17 16:23:26 UTC  

well... it will happen eventually anyways... like every single time before

2019-02-17 16:23:29 UTC  

Get back on topic

2019-02-17 16:23:45 UTC  

If we cant keep on topics in daily debates ill just stop doing it

2019-02-17 16:23:46 UTC  

Science has been wrong initially before, the way we learn things is initially we make a prediction. Take the concept of plate tectonics, our theory had holes in it to begin with, but as more evidence was gathered the theory was improved until we have out current understanding today. Back in the 60s the majority of reports supported the fact that temperatures were rising due to greenhouses.

2019-02-17 16:24:06 UTC  
2019-02-17 16:24:15 UTC  

science is a method of acquiring and perfecting knowledge, not that knowledge itself

2019-02-17 16:25:02 UTC  

that science is willing to change when it finds itself proven wrong should be taken as a token of its reliability (and the other way around: when the academic establishment maintains a position in the face of increasingly overwhelming evidence, thats usually a sign that something is being covered up or suppressed)