wym

the weight isn't crazy, like 1lb per mag

but the bulk sucks

unless half of those are in a pack

Carrying 12 mags being wack or the need for 12 mags

Being wack

Because there's plenty of ancedotal evidence saying 12 mags is pretty normal if not preferable to anyone actually doing any shooting

i mean it really depends what you're doing

there are also lots of units that never carry over 7-8

Yeah but what are they doing, like I don't expect VBSS niggas or SFABs do carry more than 8

nah

You don’t carry all your mags on your carrier

Yeah

i mean if chuck pressburg is anything to go by, most of the units doing nighttime direct action stuff only carried like 4 on body

You can either put extras in a pack or have them in your vehicle

So a plate carrier supporting 12-16 mags is whack

But that's my point, with the AVS, you'd never go past 8 mags

or similar amounts

they go in your pack

ok now i understand wym

lmao

fair

so you'd never reach a weight where the harness is ever appreciable

or noticable

🤔

You said a 12-16 mag loadout isn’t crazy

sorry didn't specify pack

and kind of pulled that number out of my ass for a "standard"

i mean fair

i think you would have to get up to a pretty heavy setup for the harness to carry its own weight

at which point you're pushing the bounds of what a reasonable combat load is anyways

Exactly

if you're like some poor fuck who has to carry a manpack radio or something i could kinda see it

idk

And like Ein and you said, it's mostly just airsofters who really parrot the benefits of the AVS

And larpers

then again all the heaviest shit you probably don't want permanently attached to your rear platebag

idk it could be nice if you had heavy stuff like radios, breaching gear, etc on the zip panels

the other factor is if you're a super manlet

and a normal person combat load is a high % of your bodyweight

so it's like you're carrying a lot even though you're just carrying a normal amount