Why hasn't 5.7 replaced 9mm? It's expensive, but any cartridge is expensive before people buy it and economy of scale kicks in.

Korvo please never ask a question in here again

u too

smh

Benefits over 9mm are basically inconsequential @Red Korvo

@franknotcreep I thought it could penetrate armor and was smaller? Are those things just not considered important for the average person? I guess it's not terribly important for self defence 95% of the time.

Penetrating armor is basically a non issue even militarily

Actually a non issue for civilian self defense

Especially especially from a side arm

Like if you shooting at armored niggas with a handgun you are done already

Does 5.56 and the like negate the need for another cartridge that can penetrate armor?

We haven't fought opponents who could afford body armor ever

And the SOP for if you see some nigga in a vest is shoot him the the groin/pelvis

black out his legs tarkov style

Basically

Like pistols are basically irrelevant on the military side

Like the army adopting those garbage ass Sigs basically proves it

They need something cuz niggas want to be strapped

But if they mattered they wouldn't have gone with the cheapest option

Makes sense.

Have you seen literally any organized military group of any size adopt anything in 5.7 on a large scale? No.

belgium

dab

waffle niggas

Not really

standard issue SFG pistol

dab

Like the whole 5.7 and 4.8 pdw memes were cuz nato was like oh shit nigga the comie paratroopers got body armor bro and our truck drivers got 1911s n shit

well they were afraid of soviet surplus armor being sold off to taliban niggas

The were worried about behind the line niggas getting run up on by parachute dudes

The whole "pdw caliber" thing (and SMGs as a whole) has essentially been negated by the proliferation of short ARs.

No, and I was asking why given that it can penetrate armor when fired out of a pistol with a magazine as large as some rifles.

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Na the OG development was for commies @gooks

5.7 was made in the late 90s

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Like the development request came from nato pre fall of the ussr

Essentially, why have a sig MPX when you can have an MCX?

Nobody had it ready before the collapse

whats the recoil like compared to 9mm?

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