Message from @Punished Gunn

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2019-12-14 03:37:54 UTC  

The 3810, U210, and 4800 all come to mind as good choices in that range

2019-12-14 03:37:57 UTC  

I figured there might be opinions on such things.

2019-12-14 03:38:07 UTC  

Quality wise they're all the same

2019-12-14 03:38:08 UTC  

Depends on what protection level you’re looking for

2019-12-14 03:38:38 UTC  

Just buy some XSAPI’s faggot

2019-12-14 03:38:45 UTC  

3M, Tencate, Ceredyne, LTC are all hard to buy direct, retailers offer rebrands and etc

2019-12-14 03:38:58 UTC  

ESAPI'ish I think, but I don't have intimate expertise with commercially available armor and modern standards.

2019-12-14 03:39:25 UTC  

Top level protection without being obscenely heavy, SAPI-Medium size.

2019-12-14 03:39:45 UTC  

Esapis are level 4 icw

2019-12-14 03:39:53 UTC  

I'm not trying to build a mil-clone rig or anything, so specific brand gucci is irrelevant

2019-12-14 03:41:19 UTC  

A lot of guys in the US are dropping M2 AP protection in favor of 3+/special threat plates

2019-12-14 03:41:31 UTC  

But there are different opinions

2019-12-14 03:41:41 UTC  

If the weight and price difference increase isn't unreasonable, that seems like the route I'd go.

2019-12-14 03:42:41 UTC  

Buy my xsapis.

2019-12-14 03:42:53 UTC  

$3000

2019-12-14 03:43:38 UTC  

sure, just mail them to my business address in Nevada and I'll send you the bitcoin

2019-12-14 03:46:26 UTC  

I would look at Hesco 3810s with that budget but others here probably have other opinions or more knowledge

2019-12-14 03:47:29 UTC  

Is that even a reasonable budget?

2019-12-14 03:47:52 UTC  

I knew the plates would be expensive, I just don't know how much as a ratio to the cost of literally everything else is right.

2019-12-14 03:48:03 UTC  

Like, I'll spend 1:1 on rifle optics.

2019-12-14 03:48:25 UTC  

How much is your life worth?

2019-12-14 03:48:33 UTC  

It’s enough for pretty high end plates

2019-12-14 03:48:51 UTC  

Depends how I die. These plates will probably never be used.

2019-12-14 03:48:55 UTC  

On the higher end of the commercial spectrum anyway

2019-12-14 03:48:57 UTC  

So that does factor in.

2019-12-14 03:49:51 UTC  

🤔

2019-12-14 03:49:56 UTC  

I mean, ideally nobody will ever be shooting at me. I actually shoot my guns and such.

2019-12-14 03:49:59 UTC  

just look up the brands and see their offerings

2019-12-14 03:50:01 UTC  

??

2019-12-14 03:50:09 UTC  

3M, Tencate, Ceredyne, LTC are all hard to buy direct, retailers offer rebrands and etc

2019-12-14 03:50:52 UTC  

Like suggestions are nice and all but it all comes down to what you're comfortable spending on and we can't tell you that

2019-12-14 03:51:37 UTC  

Right, the usual cycle is I go and look at things, then post "should I buy x?", and everyone shits on it but doesn't provide any useful feedback.

2019-12-14 03:51:38 UTC  

If you're buying plates, you're buying them with the express intent for them to stop a bullet. How well they do that, and how much they impede your range of motion in the process of doing that is up to your wallet.

2019-12-14 03:51:47 UTC  

While F5'ing the worlds slowest thread.

2019-12-14 03:51:59 UTC  

Yeah so you should just look at the specs yourself

2019-12-14 03:52:41 UTC  

Cheapest is obv the bottom and base the differences off that

2019-12-14 03:54:21 UTC  

It's fairly simple: protection level, weight, thickness
Size is irrelevant unless it's some super specific plate that doesn't come in "x" size

2019-12-14 03:57:44 UTC  

Maybe I can rephrase my question. Obviously there's a range of those three factors. One thing many of the people here have in common I'm assuming is that they've bought plates, based on their intended use case. Is there a range that's been settled by now as a reasonable balance point, or no it's just all over the place.

2019-12-14 03:58:18 UTC  

I don't have a strong preference as my use case is entirely hypothetical.

2019-12-14 03:59:09 UTC  

The latter, some people can't afford $400+ plates, some people don't want IV

2019-12-14 03:59:56 UTC  

Are the main arguments for avoiding IV cost, thickness, or weight?