i feel like police priorities are barrier penetration, then expansion/lack of overpenetration, then accuracy, then body armor penetration

following some chimpout or another

>accuracy

and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the impetus for a decent amount of SWAT departements to get AP loads for their guns

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

@CTL why do you like Barnes specifically? 50gr is nice against steel but it's not great out of 1:7

Since acquisitions would be heavily swayed by politics

>accuracy

>police

>NYPD 12lb Glock triggers

>UPS

NYPD isn't a good example

but you know how people love to buy stuff they think will make them more accurate

even though they suck

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same thing in procurement

Trust me bro the 5MOA is this crappy Federal ammo, i just need some match grade

>tryharding on discord

kek

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don't be too jealous buddy

but I am what you'd call a discord expert

brb, going to fuck some discord trannies from a server I moderate

police are a lot like deer hunters in my experience

somehow manage to miss their shot at 70 yards and think they're really reaching out at 130

Why are hunters such retards a lot of the times though?

I had a family member who is in to hunting

woods here are so thick you can't shoot a deer past 100, yet these guys have 7mm mag with 16x scopes

and offered to take me with

but freaked out when I wanted to bring an iron sight gun

like his cheap piece of shit walmart glass was really that advantageous

people are usually terrible shots

i dont think even swat has armor piercing rounds

4moa from a bench with a gun that should be able to deliver at 800 yards

while you're next to them shooting moa with irons listening to them complain about their scope being loose and thats why they missed a deer opening weekend

You'd think they'd have some on standby in case of confirmed armored suspects.

maybe??

it would take someone within the management side who was aware of the characteristics of armor and the rounds that can defeat it

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i dont know that a given police department would have such an individual. even if they were ex-mil they might not know whats on the street here. its not like they'd deal with armored up individuals every day

Or a general "we need something to defeat body armor"