like im pretty sure unless you're diseased

you will reach the formal-operational stage of cognitive development

Operational stage to do what? What is the operation?

The final stage is known as the formal operational stage (adolescence and into adulthood, roughly ages 11 to approximately 15–20): Intelligence is demonstrated through the logical use of symbols related to abstract concepts. This form of thought includes "assumptions that have no necessary relation to reality."[43] At this point, the person is capable of hypothetical and deductive reasoning. During this time, people develop the ability to think about abstract concepts.

Piaget stated that "hypothetico-deductive reasoning" becomes important during the formal operational stage. This type of thinking involves hypothetical "what-if" situations that are not always rooted in reality, i.e. counterfactual thinking. It is often required in science and mathematics.

Abstract thought emerges during the formal operational stage. Children tend to think very concretely and specifically in earlier stages, and begin to consider possible outcomes and consequences of actions.
Metacognition, the capacity for "thinking about thinking" that allows adolescents and adults to reason about their thought processes and monitor them.[44]
Problem-solving is demonstrated when children use trial-and-error to solve problems. The ability to systematically solve a problem in a logical and methodical way emerges.

While children in primary school years mostly used inductive reasoning, drawing general conclusions from personal experiences and specific facts, adolescents become capable of deductive reasoning, in which they draw specific conclusions from abstract concepts using logic. This capability results from their capacity to think hypothetically.[45]

I've asked your opinion not wiki

i mean my opinion is essentially that wiki snippet

What is it? I don't read junk.

I just hide it

i think my opinions on psychology align with the established doctrine

it's piaget's final stage of cognitive development

it's called the "formal-operational stage"

people who reach this stage think hypothetically, and use deductive reasoning, they can understand abstract concepts

like the ones required for marxism

"However, research has shown that not all persons in all cultures reach formal operations, and most people do not use formal operations in all aspects of their lives".[46]

it says here that development can not be reached based on cultural factors

which means we need to educate for people to reach this stage

maybe people raised under capitalism often don't reach it

but we can fix that

That would take a long time.

In the time of transition army discipline and authority is necessary.

In our time.

still

i think a majority of people reach this stage

at least more than before

Still what? It was very hard in USSR. With the best education system we had a lot of people believing in "water energy charging" soon turning into sects.

even under capitalism, abstract tasks are embedded in education, like algebra

Its very hard.

if you can understand algebra you can probably understand marxism

I myself struggle so long learning it. Maybe it is easy for you. Not for me.

that's your problem

Everybody agrees with me.

maybe this discord is just the stupid pit

and everybody else is smarter

Every single Russian Marxist will tell you that.

because, outside of reading the entire volume 1 of capital or something, i would assume most people can have a basic understanding of marxism

Do you know diamat?

i'm not very familiar with it, but it is only one interpretation of marxism.

Nope, it is the basis of Marxism.

How can you know anything without basics?

@post-ironic username thot

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