Message from @Apollo'sJest

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2017-11-02 13:25:01 UTC  

@Cotton In that case they are just idiots that larp as some ideal of a romanticised revolutionary rather than a real thing.

2017-11-02 13:25:13 UTC  

the real thing*

2017-11-02 13:26:07 UTC  

The fact that someone proudly proclaims themselves to be Napoleon Bonaparte does not mean that they ARE the (in)famous Emperor of the French

2017-11-02 13:26:14 UTC  

Is that so, are you gonna call the Maoist revolution a hoax? That people like that didn't exist?

2017-11-02 13:26:28 UTC  

They DID exist

2017-11-02 13:26:33 UTC  

Yep

2017-11-02 13:26:39 UTC  

and, thank God, they don't really any more

2017-11-02 13:26:54 UTC  

And ideas don't die within a generation, this is literally what it means to be an ideology

2017-11-02 13:27:06 UTC  

Oh sure

2017-11-02 13:27:16 UTC  

but they are irrelevant in terms of influence

2017-11-02 13:27:30 UTC  

As u mentionned the people that might identify as Maoist

2017-11-02 13:27:51 UTC  

See, the most retarded ideology in the history so called national socialism still have supporters up to this day

2017-11-02 13:27:56 UTC  

Don't even think you should kill people that know traditional archery techniques on sight

2017-11-02 13:28:04 UTC  

They are not Maoists

2017-11-02 13:28:18 UTC  

They just leared a "cool" word and want to be it

2017-11-02 13:28:35 UTC  

learned*

2017-11-02 13:28:49 UTC  

That doesn't make them any less maoists or any less "x"ist

2017-11-02 13:28:56 UTC  

They might be weak in practice

2017-11-02 13:29:09 UTC  

Yes it DOES make them less maoist

2017-11-02 13:29:20 UTC  

If I am a practicing Catholic

2017-11-02 13:29:40 UTC  

it does not matter how much I believe that I am actually a Shia Muslim

2017-11-02 13:29:49 UTC  

And how much I proclaim it to the world

2017-11-02 13:29:52 UTC  

I'm not one

2017-11-02 13:30:00 UTC  

Not in any true sense

2017-11-02 13:30:30 UTC  

Otherwise proper nouns loose all meaning

2017-11-02 13:31:28 UTC  

Alright so I can't identify myself freely, if I'm not going to fight for it or shoot people in regards to my ideology?

2017-11-02 13:36:53 UTC  

You are free to call yourself a giraffe. It simply won't make you one - you will be wrong. Modern colleage campus "Maoists" are free to call themselves that but they are wrong. Maoism REQUIRES you to shoot people that stand in the way of the revolution. There is no such thing as moderate Maoism. Not to mention Chinese Communism was always distinctly Nationalistic as it was seen as a tool to overthrow the Western de facto colonisers first and foremost. Modern US "Maoists" have no coloniser to fight against - even if they wanted to be Maoist AND started killing they still wouldn't be true Maoists. They'd be simmilar but not quite there still...

2017-11-02 13:38:41 UTC  

Not to mention modern Western Communists believe in a ridiculously romanticised version of Communism that simply does not compare to the real thing in action

2017-11-02 13:38:53 UTC  

They are useful indoctrinated idiots

2017-11-02 13:38:59 UTC  

(for the most part)

2017-11-02 13:39:10 UTC  

They are tools of the ideology

2017-11-02 13:39:15 UTC  

Not actual ideologues

2017-11-02 13:39:49 UTC  

Somewhat somilarily to your average Russian peasant in the 1920s

2017-11-02 13:39:53 UTC  

They are not communists

2017-11-02 13:40:13 UTC  

they are simply being used by Communists for their Communist goals

2017-11-02 13:47:07 UTC  

You're confusing the means and actions taken by any community to proclaim their goals and their actual belief

2017-11-02 13:47:47 UTC  

If I say that I am an "x"ist, it's not because I want a massacre in the name of x, it's because I think x is the ideal form of a society

2017-11-02 13:48:02 UTC  

How we reach there is irrelevant

2017-11-02 13:48:52 UTC  

See, most of the commies you will see online, except from the edgy teens who make "1 mil years of gulag ehehe" jokes constantly believe education will bring communism, this means they don't want to repeat the bloodbath that happened with soviets

2017-11-02 13:52:46 UTC  

Sure, you're right

2017-11-02 13:52:52 UTC  

They are Communists