Message from @Mr. X

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2018-11-18 12:49:32 UTC  

yes yes I know about that

2018-11-18 12:49:38 UTC  

but in ww1 thats what made it worse

2018-11-18 12:49:41 UTC  

Only war helped to reduce revolutionary situation

2018-11-18 12:49:43 UTC  

Yes

2018-11-18 12:51:34 UTC  

No it bankrupted them much more

2018-11-18 12:52:09 UTC  

Yes but they escaped possible revolution in 1914

2018-11-18 12:52:27 UTC  

I do not reject what you talking about

2018-11-18 12:53:02 UTC  

How did they escape possible revolution in 1914?

2018-11-18 12:53:17 UTC  

>In 1914 was rising of strike movement
even in Petersburg were barricades
Which wasn't in 1905

2018-11-18 12:53:18 UTC  

Either way it was in vain

2018-11-18 12:53:39 UTC  

so? what proof is there that the war prevented it?

2018-11-18 12:53:44 UTC  

There was a revolution during the war

2018-11-18 12:54:44 UTC  

Not prevented but postpone

2018-11-18 12:55:29 UTC  

How so?

2018-11-18 12:56:17 UTC  

In 1914 was possibility for revolutionary situation but war directed energy of people in patriotic hysteria which reduced in 1915-1916

2018-11-18 12:57:40 UTC  

People instead struggle with czarist government dyed in fields of battle with same working people

2018-11-18 12:58:18 UTC  

I'll research that, but thanks

2018-11-18 12:58:24 UTC  

Either way it was still in vain

2018-11-18 12:58:38 UTC  

capitalism has industrialized people far better before

2018-11-18 12:58:39 UTC  

And all socialists and liberals supported czarist government only bolsheviks took internationalist position

2018-11-18 13:00:36 UTC  

I dont like the tsar

2018-11-18 13:00:41 UTC  

Nor do I like the commies

2018-11-18 13:00:50 UTC  

nor do I like the current administration and corruption

2018-11-18 13:00:59 UTC  

this is why I dislike russians so much

2018-11-18 13:01:04 UTC  

well one of the reasons

2018-11-18 13:01:09 UTC  

as well as multiple failures

2018-11-18 13:01:27 UTC  

Russia had been modernizing since 1861 (peasant reform) but this created great contradictions so revolution was inevitable

2018-11-18 13:01:54 UTC  

Like I said, I never liked the tsar.

2018-11-18 13:02:24 UTC  

Remnants of feudalism were added by contradictions of bourgeois development

2018-11-18 13:02:48 UTC  

Oh yeah same for all the other times communism has been tried

2018-11-18 13:03:04 UTC  

So there was no possibility for "centrist" development

2018-11-18 13:03:19 UTC  

course there were

2018-11-18 13:03:28 UTC  

you can be centrist and have revolution

2018-11-18 13:03:44 UTC  

That's why provisional governent and all suppoted socrevs and mensheviks failed

2018-11-18 13:03:48 UTC  

What do you think happened in france and america?

2018-11-18 13:04:03 UTC  

they overthrew kings but didnt turn to shit like communism over time

2018-11-18 13:04:08 UTC  

France was very radical

2018-11-18 13:04:14 UTC  

in a good sense

2018-11-18 13:04:22 UTC  

they had napoleon

2018-11-18 13:04:26 UTC  

who made a great empire

2018-11-18 13:04:39 UTC  

@Mr. X because there was no objective causes for communist revolution