Message from @Apple O'Day

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2019-01-19 04:20:15 UTC  

considered a human rights violation by who? democrats? protecting their economies from hordes of impoverished people that want to come in and would need free services is just practical. its not a human rights violation to lock your door with a hundred homeless people outside.

2019-01-19 04:20:35 UTC  

human rights watch generally doesn't show political bias

2019-01-19 04:20:50 UTC  

they have a pretty good track record of journalism

2019-01-19 04:22:06 UTC  

well characterizing a wall as a human rights violation... like yes, its better for refugees if theres not a wall. That point doesnt end the discussion though. democrats act like it does...

2019-01-19 04:22:36 UTC  

“Israel’s separation barrier seriously impedes Palestinian access to essentials of civilian life, such as work, education and medical care.”

2019-01-19 04:22:48 UTC  

"The Human Rights Watch briefing paper argues that the barrier imposes arbitrary and excessive restrictions on the freedom of movement of tens of thousands of Palestinians and violates Israel’s obligation under the Geneva Conventions to ensure the welfare of the population under occupation."

2019-01-19 04:23:03 UTC  

“The settlements violate the Geneva Conventions’ prohibition against transfers of population and have gravely affected Palestinian access to basics like employment, land and water,”

2019-01-19 04:23:14 UTC  

violating the geneva conventions is generally considered a big deal

2019-01-19 04:24:46 UTC  

here's two amnesty articles documenting how a woman who legally immigrated was arrested and refused treatment for a brain tumor for 15 months

2019-01-19 04:26:27 UTC  

now you tell me
is refusing someone critical medical care because they attempted to legally migrate to a country through established methods considered okay?

2019-01-19 04:29:52 UTC  

So, what they are doing is they are picking up any time someone is mistakenly detained for a moment and trying to add a nefarious motive

2019-01-19 04:30:13 UTC  

detained for 15 months and denied critical medical care

2019-01-19 04:30:13 UTC  

oh look this veteran was detained, oh look this young mother was detained

2019-01-19 04:30:22 UTC  

oh wow

2019-01-19 04:30:58 UTC  

actually stopped someone from having their cancer treated because they were trying to legally migrate through pre-existing judicial processes

2019-01-19 04:31:31 UTC  

OH well yes she is actually an illegal though, thats why she was detained. She should be allowed any treatment she can afford though

2019-01-19 04:32:08 UTC  

"'Sara and her family are overjoyed that she will finally be able to be with her loved ones and receive medical care after being unjustly detained for over 400 days,' said Eric Ferrero of Amnesty International USA."
*unjustly detained*

2019-01-19 04:33:16 UTC  

due to the way population pyramids work in impoverished countries (they have huge amounts of children that dont live very long due to poor living conditions), if dems have their way we will be taking in a huge stream of impoverished migrants *forever* and expecting middle class taxpayers to foot the bill

2019-01-19 04:33:46 UTC  

there are always impoverished people in the world, in many countries

2019-01-19 04:33:51 UTC  

there always have been

2019-01-19 04:34:27 UTC  

have you considered that maybe having less than 1% of the people own more than 50% of the wealth is a problem

2019-01-19 04:35:56 UTC  

yes, thats a problem but its not related to this issue

2019-01-19 04:36:38 UTC  

so huge amounts of impoverished people has nothing to do with a few people holding most of the wealth

2019-01-19 04:36:52 UTC  

no, migration

2019-01-19 04:36:56 UTC  

concentrated wealth means concentrated poverty

2019-01-19 04:37:00 UTC  

what were talking about is migration

2019-01-19 04:37:12 UTC  

alright then

2019-01-19 04:37:27 UTC  

let's go ahead and take a look at why they're migrating, anyway

2019-01-19 04:37:33 UTC  

we can make their countries better, that will fix the problem

2019-01-19 04:37:36 UTC  

let's start with honduras

2019-01-19 04:38:30 UTC  

letting them migrate will save one generation of hondurans and the next generation will be back to square one, its pointless

2019-01-19 04:38:57 UTC  

so it would appear that the USA shot themselves in the foot here

2019-01-19 04:39:39 UTC  

let's step back a bit further and expand our focus a bit wider

2019-01-19 04:40:20 UTC  

its true for any impoverished country though

2019-01-19 04:40:34 UTC  

*ruins country*
"wait why do you want to leave"

2019-01-19 04:40:47 UTC  

the USA also did it in guatemala

2019-01-19 04:40:52 UTC  

when they casually backed a coup and genocide