Message from @Stryker

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2019-08-06 00:39:50 UTC  

a lot of statistics include any shooting with 3 or more deaths

2019-08-06 00:40:00 UTC  

which again could be from another thing like gang shootings

2019-08-06 00:40:18 UTC  

not your typical massacre you think of like in el paso

2019-08-06 00:40:29 UTC  

`As of August 5th, 2019, 250 mass shootings have occurred in 2019 that fit the inclusion criteria of this article. This averages out to 1.2 shootings per day. In these shootings, 979 people were shot; of those people, 246 have died.`

2019-08-06 00:40:55 UTC  

yes what is the criteria though

2019-08-06 00:41:17 UTC  

like i said, most people think of what you would call a massacre with one or a few people killing a bunch of unarmed people

2019-08-06 00:41:30 UTC  

in a lot of cases its just any gun related thing with multiple casualties

2019-08-06 00:41:35 UTC  

which artificially inflates the number

2019-08-06 00:43:46 UTC  

fbi calls it massacre when it reaches 4 casualties

2019-08-06 00:44:09 UTC  

yes but you see the issue here right?

2019-08-06 00:44:15 UTC  

4 casualties could be a gang shoot out

2019-08-06 00:44:20 UTC  

not some guy shooting up a walmart

2019-08-06 00:44:36 UTC  

so the number is inflated from what your generally common definition of a mass shooting would be

2019-08-06 00:44:42 UTC  

so its disingenuous

2019-08-06 00:45:05 UTC  

if we really had like 3 every day there would be more news about it, and 2 in one week wouldnt be news headlines

2019-08-06 00:52:00 UTC  

my definition includes gang violence lol

2019-08-06 00:52:47 UTC  

and yeah a lot of these have 0 deads but it doesnt make them not an issue

2019-08-06 00:52:58 UTC  

tho I doubt in those cases people used automatics

2019-08-06 00:53:04 UTC  

but still they are mental lmao

2019-08-06 00:53:44 UTC  

no but you understand that gang violence is inherently different than a guy shooting up and unarmed population

2019-08-06 00:54:07 UTC  

thats why im saying using that as a metric without putting an asterisk whenever you say it is disingenuous

2019-08-06 01:00:42 UTC  

ultimate you have 4.5 gun related homicides for every 100k people, really not that bad

2019-08-06 01:14:40 UTC  

ye and for europe its what?

2019-08-06 01:17:42 UTC  

It's still a low number regardless, compare the US to other diverse new world nations

2019-08-06 01:18:39 UTC  

Germany has low crime in general

2019-08-06 01:18:46 UTC  

For example

2019-08-06 01:18:56 UTC  

Same for most Europe countries

2019-08-06 01:55:40 UTC  

why are you compaing the US to low developed nations compare it to Western Europe

2019-08-06 02:38:26 UTC  

because demographically and contextually the US is more similar to those nations

2019-08-06 02:39:08 UTC  

US homicide rate is 4.9 with gun homicide being 4.7

2019-08-06 02:39:16 UTC  

find countries that have similar homicide rates to that

2019-08-06 02:42:27 UTC  

it doesnt make sense to compare a peaceful country to the US then blame it on guns if there is more crime in the first place

2019-08-06 03:25:57 UTC  

8ch its dead

2019-08-06 03:29:05 UTC  

gud

2019-08-06 12:27:49 UTC  

>it doesnt make sense to compare a peaceful country to the US
isnt the US supposed to be peaceful? you are amongst the few richest countries on Earth, you have the resources to deal with these issues

2019-08-06 12:34:28 UTC  

the demographics dont compare so its an illogical comparison

2019-08-06 12:35:00 UTC  

you can spout about how le niggers isnt an argument, but when the overwhelming majority of violent crimes are committed by them its a relevant point

2019-08-06 12:35:05 UTC  

demographics dont compare? what?

2019-08-06 12:35:10 UTC  

how is that relevant?

2019-08-06 12:35:18 UTC  

what do you mean by demographics

2019-08-06 12:35:35 UTC  

the fact that america is a more diverse country