i cant even see what their defginitions are

i dont really talk about these stats I dont care much I just say introduce mental health tests so things like these shootings in el paso could be avoided

those shootings are pretty much a statistical outlier

also dunno why do you have to allow selling automatics either thats just crazy, tehre should be a federal ban on these

this was semi auto i guess

you can buy semi auto ak in poland too

stfu with your outliers how many people have died in 2019 alone in mass shootings?

my unpopular opinion
* nobody demands to 'be sane' (if you're mental health issues you can get a gun)
* mental health its expensive
* if u can get a ar15 when u're buying food... you can get this

@rogalik you cant buy automatic

`The amount of mass shootings across the U.S. so far in 2019 has outpaced the number of days this year, according to a gun violence research group.`

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depends on what the definition of mass shooting is

a lot of statistics include any shooting with 3 or more deaths

which again could be from another thing like gang shootings

not your typical massacre you think of like in el paso

`As of August 5th, 2019, 250 mass shootings have occurred in 2019 that fit the inclusion criteria of this article. This averages out to 1.2 shootings per day. In these shootings, 979 people were shot; of those people, 246 have died.`

yes what is the criteria though

like i said, most people think of what you would call a massacre with one or a few people killing a bunch of unarmed people

in a lot of cases its just any gun related thing with multiple casualties

which artificially inflates the number

fbi calls it massacre when it reaches 4 casualties

yes but you see the issue here right?

4 casualties could be a gang shoot out

not some guy shooting up a walmart

so the number is inflated from what your generally common definition of a mass shooting would be

so its disingenuous

if we really had like 3 every day there would be more news about it, and 2 in one week wouldnt be news headlines

my definition includes gang violence lol

and yeah a lot of these have 0 deads but it doesnt make them not an issue

tho I doubt in those cases people used automatics

but still they are mental lmao

no but you understand that gang violence is inherently different than a guy shooting up and unarmed population

thats why im saying using that as a metric without putting an asterisk whenever you say it is disingenuous

ultimate you have 4.5 gun related homicides for every 100k people, really not that bad

ye and for europe its what?

It's still a low number regardless, compare the US to other diverse new world nations

Germany has low crime in general

For example

Same for most Europe countries

why are you compaing the US to low developed nations compare it to Western Europe

because demographically and contextually the US is more similar to those nations