I don't get why anyone would be against socialism

you should know this

it's a class-focused ideology

anyone that claims otherwise is stupid

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mJTt8VYAAdZSP.jpg:large

the implementation is just problematic becouse it's a shit system

so they reside to quasi-fascist means

I do despise one thing about the left. We really do focus on idpol too much.

because socialism is a fantasy that can never be truly implemented the way it was intended to, and the intersectional nature of the human experience is not compatible with it.

Okay, I'll actually post an useful image now.

What?

I am.... What? The fuck are you talking about?

socialism always leads to sperging where they have to resort to quasi-traditionalism

becouse the autism marx wrote is not applicable to real life

The human experience is completely compatible with socialism. We formed societies as a way of protecting ourselves and ensuring social stability, health and so on.

lmfao

>Soviet union instates legislation based on marxist theory
>doesn't work
>fuck
>stalin enforces his quasi-reactionary ideas
>shit gets fixed

What on earth are you doing in a leftist server, lol

some leftists have interesting takes on economics

I think we can agree some level of socialism is necessary, but capitalism is also an integral cog that can't be removed, the question is to what degree do we socialize? And in the face of a question like that true socialism/communism can't exist.

> but capitalism is also an integral cog that can't be removed
It has to be removed, the capitalists are literally stealing all of our money and making profit off of OUR labor.

Fuck them.

^
Why is capitalism necessary? Why is producing objects that we either don't need or serve no practical purpose necessary?

This is bullshit, the privilege in western societies thanks to capitalism are immeasurable to the squalor poverty stricken state of many socialist and former socialist countries.

consumerism is rancid cancer

You are ignoring why socialism in those poverty stricken countries occured

I mow lawns for God's sake. Not only that, but the neoliberal establishment has its head so far up its ass that since I'm a "straight white male", they make it seem that I am the problem rather than the 1% billionaires who are actually doing the damage.

@Duke Pome because it was properly implemented <:porky:315615014751043588>

Also what happened when any country ever attempted to form a socialist or just society in any way

socialism works quite well in ethnically homogenous societies

fails miserably when they're not

*cough* Sweden *cough*

Sweden's a social democracy.

@Workingman Our capitalist system in my country, the glorious United States of America (God Bless) is one based on meritocracy and so if the most you bring to the table is lawnmowing, it is the faults of your parents and yourself. Not the system

Listen, I know that you are either here to trigger people or a reaction @Deleted User but you are seriously just revealing your own ignorance here.

right but it had overwhelmingly socialist policies

it was a mixed economy

sure

and it worked well

Not the system? Not the system which fucks workers over, takes away jobs and removes power from the workers? Not the system that ensures that those who work hard will never directly benefit from their labour?