if they see we're disciplined

Yes.

Exactly my point

men haven't stopped going to church because it's too hard, but because it's become too easy

We HAVE TO HAVE order, discipline and structure to win.

The greatest armies in the world lost their battles due to a breakdown of order and discipline.

like someone said above

300 Spartans

Can we put forth a motion to our leadership

vs Xerxes' hordes

Technically 298 lol

Even though the Spartans were conquered, they stood fast and defended their lands for days, against thousands and thousands.

exactly

You know what? If leadership is cool with it, I could have a banner made.

on my own dollar

it would be a while, because my finances are bad

but I wouldn't ask leadership to pay for my expensive idea

I would be more than happy to have banners made for march and drill

Derrick might be able to help

i'm also in favor of lots of flags

Flags are good.

You ever see those marches where there are hundreds of flags? Not saying we could muster that kind of force, but flags are the ultimate aesthetic

Not to sound like an optics cuck, but I'm in favor of good, old-fashioned NSDAP/BUF optics

i mean

Dr. Goebbels certainly understood the power

even once we were in charge of Germany they had the Nuremberg rallies and parades of German culture

Look at the original Bund

They had *20,000* members come to Madison Square Garden. They wouldn't've had that if they didn't try for discipline

Look how many guys are here

not many. But they look like a real force.

there's only about 30 guys there i think

half of what we had yesterday

four drummers, three flag-bearers, all uniformed and looking sharp

that really is peak optics

Yep

Even if we're unsuccessful in our efforts to achieve that, I say we try.

it wouldn't hurt. All it can do is make us better men

Even everyone looking the same is a good start.

Everyone needs to start trying to lose weight, especially leadership, (me included) lol