Message from @Hagel

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2018-10-18 13:04:05 UTC  

no they would write a ffucking book

2018-10-18 13:04:21 UTC  

So obviously there's more to speciation than just breeding capacity

2018-10-18 13:04:23 UTC  

It's about traits, too

2018-10-18 13:04:31 UTC  

nope

2018-10-18 13:04:43 UTC  

all of this text on this page has sources from books btw

2018-10-18 13:04:46 UTC  

so there you have your precious books

2018-10-18 13:04:48 UTC  

fake news

2018-10-18 13:04:59 UTC  

```Natural hybridisation presents a challenge to the concept of a reproductively isolated species, as fertile hybrids permit gene flow between two populations. For example, the carrion crow Corvus corone and the hooded crow Corvus cornix appear and are classified as separate species, yet they hybridise freely where their geographical ranges overlap.[60]```

2018-10-18 13:05:03 UTC  

lol

2018-10-18 13:05:04 UTC  

fake news

2018-10-18 13:05:12 UTC  

Fake news because you don't like what it says

2018-10-18 13:05:18 UTC  

A true liberal badass right here, lads

2018-10-18 13:05:36 UTC  

fake news

2018-10-18 13:06:02 UTC  

Species is just a word used to describe certain levels of genetic similarity

2018-10-18 13:06:10 UTC  

It doesn't have a fixed, rigorous definition that always works

2018-10-18 13:06:29 UTC  

It doesn't change anything if bantu and Scandinavians are the same species, or aren't

2018-10-18 13:06:32 UTC  

things are what they are anyway

2018-10-18 13:06:36 UTC  

nope

2018-10-18 13:06:36 UTC  

what ever you call them

2018-10-18 13:06:42 UTC  

it's pretty fucking right imo

2018-10-18 13:07:11 UTC  

So you can define species only by breeding capacity (which means that asexual creatures can't be of a species, but whatever)

2018-10-18 13:07:27 UTC  

But that doesn't make two species that can interbreed, but are very different, any less different

2018-10-18 13:07:29 UTC  

they still are what they are

2018-10-18 13:07:40 UTC  

And we'll just use some other word to describe what they are, like race, sub species, strain, etc

2018-10-18 13:08:24 UTC  

However, since the desire of the word species is to be a universal category of genetic similarity across life, including asexual life forms, your defintion doesn't hold up

2018-10-18 13:08:42 UTC  

fake news

2018-10-18 13:08:52 UTC  

write short paragraphs too

2018-10-18 13:08:55 UTC  

way too long

2018-10-18 13:09:03 UTC  

It also doesn't hold up since the desire is for organisms of the same species to be more similar to each other than organisms of other species, which isn't always the case if you only define it by breeding potential

2018-10-18 13:09:23 UTC  

It's possible for creatures that are less similar in appearance and other traits to be able to interbreed

2018-10-18 13:10:24 UTC  

huh

2018-10-18 13:10:27 UTC  

did not read

2018-10-18 13:10:32 UTC  

race doesn't exist

2018-10-18 13:10:35 UTC  

fake news

2018-10-18 13:10:43 UTC  

```Wilkins further grouped the species concepts into seven basic kinds of concepts: (1) agamospecies for asexual organisms (2) biospecies for reproductively isolated sexual organisms (3) ecospecies based on ecological niches (4) evolutionary species based on lineage (5) genetic species based on gene pool (6) morphospecies based on form or phenotype and (7) taxonomic species, a species as determined by a taxonomist.[73]```

2018-10-18 13:10:49 UTC  

fake news

2018-10-18 13:10:51 UTC  

Whew lads, the only criterion for speciation is breeding

2018-10-18 13:10:58 UTC  

look at me, I'm a book reading leftist, I'm smart

2018-10-18 13:11:01 UTC  

yes it is lmao

2018-10-18 13:11:08 UTC  

go back to reading wiki articles

2018-10-18 13:11:09 UTC  

lmao