Message from @fannybandit

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2018-02-16 06:27:43 UTC  

What is your definition of civilization then?

2018-02-16 06:28:17 UTC  

A world-wide understanding in which poverty does not exist.

2018-02-16 06:29:04 UTC  

Does that not only exist in theory?

2018-02-16 06:29:20 UTC  

It will exist in reality with the removal of all federal government.

2018-02-16 06:30:49 UTC  

Who becomes in charge of the distribution of materials in this reality? or is there?

2018-02-16 06:31:11 UTC  

There wouldn't be anyone in charge, that's the point.

2018-02-16 06:31:26 UTC  

Every single time someone or something is in charge, everything goes to shit.

2018-02-16 06:31:52 UTC  

No person can appropriately handle power over the majority.

2018-02-16 06:32:15 UTC  

Therefore, we all banish the concept of ruling.

2018-02-16 06:33:19 UTC  

Corruption creates a ruling class, a ruling class creates corruption.

2018-02-16 06:33:38 UTC  

You can think that, but over time among all groups of people there are personalities who rise up to lead and the rest follow, that's humanity.

2018-02-16 06:33:54 UTC  

Removing rule completely will eliminate poverty.

2018-02-16 06:34:00 UTC  

That's actually my entire point.

2018-02-16 06:34:12 UTC  

There isn't a single true leader in every single government globally.

2018-02-16 06:34:38 UTC  

Abolishing all government immediately will allow true leaders to replace rulers.

2018-02-16 06:35:44 UTC  

But the true leaders, do they have the people in mind or will the power corrupt them eventually as well?

2018-02-16 06:35:52 UTC  

Society is governed, civilization is led.

2018-02-16 06:36:14 UTC  

Only the true leaders, tested and true, will ever get a chance to have power.

2018-02-16 06:36:39 UTC  

That's infinitely better than the knowingly corrupted and wealthy ruling over the impoverished.

2018-02-16 06:36:59 UTC  

The class that actually works has the best leaders in the world.

2018-02-16 06:37:11 UTC  

Among the ruling class, there isn't a single leader...only rulers.

2018-02-16 06:37:26 UTC  

Ironically...the rulers are oppressing the leaders.

2018-02-16 06:40:05 UTC  

We started as a civilization and society was born from it with the corrupt leaders rising to power, will the process keep repeating as society rises again and new people come to the same conclusion?

2018-02-16 06:40:39 UTC  

Current government is an intentional insanity.

2018-02-16 06:41:02 UTC  

Removing that insanity will at least allow the people of the world to have a chance at a decent life.

2018-02-16 06:41:36 UTC  

If we break the cycle of intentional and orchestrated insanity, right now, it's probable that society will never exist again.

2018-02-16 06:41:53 UTC  

Especially once civilization is successful.

2018-02-16 06:42:26 UTC  

Once poverty become a thing of the past, just like mass warfare, then society will seem like the medieval ages.

2018-02-16 06:42:41 UTC  

That's evolution.

2018-02-16 06:44:23 UTC  

I honestly think we can never reach that level, humanity is repeating the same problems so it becomes a cycle we can only study and theorize.

2018-02-16 06:45:18 UTC  

We've already studied this and the conclusion is obvious...government and the societies they bring create an intentional insanity that fails the majority willfully.

2018-02-16 06:45:42 UTC  

Therefore, the only reasonable way to evolve is to remove government entirely.

2018-02-16 06:46:10 UTC  

We must continue to evolve, or we will continue to fail.

2018-02-16 06:46:15 UTC  

There is no other way to evolve.

2018-02-16 06:46:55 UTC  

For the people to rise, government must fall.

2018-02-16 06:51:29 UTC  

If the people are to rise, education will need to be more widespread and with technology this seems to be more of a reality. But I am still stuck at the thought that people at least some will succumb to corruption and people will rise again but there will always be people who suffer at such corruption which will continue to happen.

2018-02-16 06:52:19 UTC  

In a civilization, no government, those who rise will do by the consent of the majority in a natural and open market.

2018-02-16 06:52:43 UTC  

They will not be wealthy people who are pre-positioned, filtered, hand selected, and then put on stage for a puppet show.

2018-02-16 06:53:15 UTC  

They will naturally stand-out among their peers by having conviction, honor, and discipline.

2018-02-16 06:54:13 UTC  

More poor people have the traits of leadership than wealthy people.

2018-02-16 06:54:37 UTC  

Leadership is the potential of humanity.