It's literally written down in our declaration of independence and supported by law.

"when government becomes destructive to these ends, it the right of the people to abolish it".

Those who created our system of government knew that this would happen.

They wanted us to overthrow this corrupt, fraudulent insanity that willfully prevents us from evolving.

As long as government remains, we will not evolve.

That truth alone is what makes my plan self-evidently necessary and correct.

Yes, I know we can overthrow our own current government, but there will always be a new one who will have similar problems or entirely new ones. Humanity is governance. And governance prevents us from evolving. I don't know if there is a non-circular solution but with your proposal like you said maybe we won't be humanity with enough of it

Yes, humanity is governance...so what does that make government?

Inhumane.

We are our own problem

No, government is our problem.

We haven't been afforded the luxery of being our own problem for about 10,000 years.

I apologize I meant humanity IS government

Humanity is governance...government is inhumane.

Our humanity is what makes government wrong.

Government is inhumane.

Anything that unnaturally governs humanity is inhumane.

Even humans?

Humans are humane.

We are the source of humanity.

We govern ourselves, that process is sick but that is humanity

No we do not.

We are governed by something that the majorty do not approve or consent to.

That is oppression.

This oppression exists because of government.

Government exists because of collusion and corruption.

Collusion and corruption is what created societies.

Once society falls with government, civilization and humanity will exist for the first time in human history.

I don't think that will be the result.

If you want to remove wrong, end poverty.

Without poverty, no one will be desperate enough to commit crimes.

Your opinion may not support my plan, however, my plan is sound, reasonable, simple, effective, and revolutionary.

That is exactly what humanity needs...a revolutionary evolution.

That is how we evolve.

Much of your plan makes sense but we disagree on the result after it would enacted.

Not destroying government with the fact that the majority are impoverished is literal insanity.

What would the result be...in your opinion?

Is the fallout from government's failures so catastrophic that, by removing government, humans will be inhumane?

The result would be a mirror of the issues before the revolution, this is seen in all aspects of humanity throughout history where the net result is the same. After this discussion I feel government falls into a more murky water between human and inhumane. But humans fall into this same murky water as we both try to evolve and oppress our own under government.

Which revolution?

Your plan