ping pong tables at work

the point is that none of it is connected to anyones job performance.

you are just voting for stuff

so no one is gonig to actually do there job

i think the dead spaniards are rolling in their graves as we speak

that's not a response

you are denying history with your speculations on human nature.
everyone in the c.n.t. did their job, enthusiastically

why can't we?

well explain to me how that worked then

why would anyone do there job enthusiastically when there is no reward for doing so?

if I was working hard I would quickly become bitter by those who worked aorund me who slacked off and didn't face consequences

that's or I would just started slacking off myself, let some other chump do the work well I just kick back and collect

what's any one persons individual motivation to do anything?

if you can explain that maybe you ahve got something

if not then well...

collective ownership of the means of production through worker's syndicates, culture that honestly found the concept of simply voting for more money asinine and cyclical. they believed in worker's control over their own resources in a way that is humanitarian.
it's amazing how well people can adapt when when they have a cause that they believe in

lo, a cause

you can't force everyone to believe in your causes

look though

so you are saying to workers just own the business

you know you can jsut do that within capitalism

that's right, i can't.
everyone who doesn't can just leave

you can jsut start you own buiness and set it up like that, with profit sharing

leave what? the country?

yea, but i hear it's difficult to sustain. i'm not in a position where i can just start my own business anyway

or leave the country for that matter

lol, no shit you are a communist idiot

your business would fail instantly

cus reality is that is there are not consequnces for shti people don't do anything

you will get out competed by people who do this every time

jsut look at north and south korea for example

one is backwater and the other extremely prosperous

capitalism works

lol, implying i would ever follow the juche model

it doesn't matter what iditoic model you dream up

you are too dumb to even figure out how to make enough moeny to open a business

lol, you think you are going to run a whole country

run a fucking KFC franchise first

c.n.t. seemed self-sufficient enough to sustain itself until the fascists crushed it

we have the right to thank for that

then get back to me about your models