Message from @Comrade Skeltal

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2018-02-17 06:18:34 UTC  

Its not tho.

2018-02-17 06:18:41 UTC  

how is it different?

2018-02-17 06:18:45 UTC  

Capitalism is a relationship

2018-02-17 06:19:07 UTC  

I.e. between wealth, in the form of capital, and wage labour.

2018-02-17 06:19:50 UTC  

or the difference between owning land and working to pay rent

2018-02-17 06:20:01 UTC  

so buy some land

2018-02-17 06:20:03 UTC  

Which is what I said

2018-02-17 06:20:05 UTC  

But also

2018-02-17 06:20:05 UTC  

No

2018-02-17 06:20:09 UTC  

He wouldnt buy the land

2018-02-17 06:20:26 UTC  

he would jsut take it?

2018-02-17 06:20:49 UTC  

In revolution, probably. He and those others who'd joim the commune of bee keepers, yes.

2018-02-17 06:20:51 UTC  

Otherwise,

2018-02-17 06:21:03 UTC  

He'd have to succumb to wage labour

2018-02-17 06:21:20 UTC  

Be exploited, and then use what he gets to buy land.

2018-02-17 06:21:42 UTC  

so everytime anyone wants land they have to take it by violent force from eachother?

2018-02-17 06:21:50 UTC  

And then he'd "own" that land, despite owership being counterintuitive to syndicalism

2018-02-17 06:21:54 UTC  

and it would have to be quite a lot of land for a commune

2018-02-17 06:21:58 UTC  

I mean

2018-02-17 06:22:02 UTC  

Thats how capitalism did it

2018-02-17 06:22:04 UTC  

And does it

2018-02-17 06:22:11 UTC  

So idk why the hang up is violence

2018-02-17 06:22:17 UTC  

no, we just sell stuff to eachother

2018-02-17 06:22:21 UTC  

No,

2018-02-17 06:22:24 UTC  

yeah

2018-02-17 06:22:30 UTC  

I bought my property with money

2018-02-17 06:22:39 UTC  

The capitalist system is predicated on the violent acquisition of land and wealth

2018-02-17 06:22:44 UTC  

Hence why it was able to start

2018-02-17 06:22:51 UTC  

And hence why we now have foreign wars

2018-02-17 06:22:54 UTC  

whatever

2018-02-17 06:23:00 UTC  

I jstu bought my land with money

2018-02-17 06:23:06 UTC  

They had to acquire the common land somehow

2018-02-17 06:23:07 UTC  

taking land, mostly through the state.
forcing farming commoners off land and into cities to become factory workers

2018-02-17 06:23:09 UTC  

didn't have to kill anyone

2018-02-17 06:23:14 UTC  

The peasants didnt just give it to them

2018-02-17 06:23:26 UTC  

what are you guys talking about?

2018-02-17 06:23:26 UTC  

The stole and killed them for it

2018-02-17 06:23:39 UTC  

no, I just bout land from some other guy that didn't want it anymore

2018-02-17 06:23:48 UTC  

noone was killed

2018-02-17 06:23:54 UTC  

you can do likewise

2018-02-17 06:24:33 UTC  

the industrial revolition.
the state stole the commons, and forced its occupants into cities to become working-class