Message from @ÜltraÜberGöttKönig

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2018-05-20 18:17:26 UTC  

because it's apparently based on NEGATIVE emotions

2018-05-20 18:18:02 UTC  

well its not all black and white

2018-05-20 18:18:57 UTC  

if white is good and black is bad then as for me they are way more to the black

2018-05-20 18:19:10 UTC  

so I don't see a reason to acknowledge their arguments

2018-05-20 18:19:34 UTC  

but its NOT just black and whit

2018-05-20 18:19:40 UTC  

and tbh you can bring even refugees thing to a pure calculation

2018-05-20 18:19:51 UTC  

it's difficult tho

2018-05-20 18:20:18 UTC  

brb going to a shop

2018-05-20 18:20:47 UTC  

I dont think you can really. Bringing people in always costs money, money that could be spend on local schools for example.

2018-05-20 18:22:11 UTC  

So you got to choose: Let a million people immigrate, saivng a part of them from certain death but also risking public safety and spending money OR refuse them probably letting a part of them die but secure your own stability and saving money to spend on someting else

2018-05-20 18:23:31 UTC  

I think this issue is 100% opinion based

2018-05-20 18:23:53 UTC  

some people just prefer option a and some prefer optionb

2018-05-20 18:24:10 UTC  

refusing to give one of the parties a chance to speak is very ignorant imo

2018-05-20 18:30:38 UTC  

we haven't refused them a chance to speak in the first place, they could have spoken, they could have presented their arguments, and honestly they weren't based on merit, it was autistic nationalistic screeching, I'm for reconsideration of immigration policy in the West too, but not for the reasons like "some people are born subhuman", "we should only take care of our asses", "holocaust didn't happen", "praise wermacht victories", they made fucking clowns of themselves ffs, they made their PR go into shitter and they are surprised leftists react agressively

2018-05-20 18:31:15 UTC  

only a minority of extremists say tht stuff

2018-05-20 18:31:31 UTC  

and they call themselves AfD as well

2018-05-20 18:31:41 UTC  

and still just because they were dumbin the past doesnt automatically mean they will alsways remain that way

2018-05-20 18:31:45 UTC  

so it's like they ruin the opinion of the whole party

2018-05-20 18:33:35 UTC  

like, talk about reasonable things, talk about costs, talk about money, you will have my attention, but if you portray yourself like a dumb fucking prick only caring about his ass? how do I talk to someone like that? >muh germany first 🤢

2018-05-20 18:33:56 UTC  

they do talk about money

2018-05-20 18:34:23 UTC  

infact the faction leader weidel is a studied economists and likes to remind everyone of that by talking money all the time

2018-05-20 18:45:11 UTC  

I can't really talk about AfD specifically I'm not familiar with their recent statements, but nationalist even when talking about concrete things simply won't recognise that the world isn't a zero-sum game anymore, and often things that seemingly make you lose money in the end benefit all, oh, and another thing, nationalists are never for win-win deals

2018-05-20 18:45:45 UTC  

ok i see a problem here

2018-05-20 18:46:23 UTC  

you admit that you arent as familiar with afd positions but are fine with denying them the opportunity to speak?

2018-05-20 18:47:51 UTC  

Germany pays a lot of money for the EU cohesion policy, but thanks to infrastructural(and other) investments in poorer countries like Poland, not only they benefit directly because their companies have a better environment but also Poles have more money to spend on German products, the trade is growing and all so you could claim it's somewhat good for the both sides(of course Germany shouldn't keep paying forever)

2018-05-20 18:48:19 UTC  

>you admit that you arent as familiar with afd positions but are fine with denying them the opportunity to speak?

2018-05-20 18:49:34 UTC  

yeah, they should leave the party and properly disassociate themselves from the fascists

2018-05-20 18:49:44 UTC  

if they want to be taken seriously

2018-05-20 18:49:49 UTC  

one person actualy did that

2018-05-20 18:49:53 UTC  

great then

2018-05-20 18:49:55 UTC  

directly after the elecetion

2018-05-20 18:51:52 UTC  

oh you mean Frauke Petry?

2018-05-20 18:51:56 UTC  

also

2018-05-20 18:51:58 UTC  

>Weidel

2018-05-20 18:52:01 UTC  

🤢

2018-05-20 18:52:57 UTC  

>a globalist banker being in a multicultural lesbian relationship associating herself with the "ordinary decent people"

2018-05-20 18:53:01 UTC  

comedy gold

2018-05-20 18:53:44 UTC  

almost as funny as a City broker doing the same and calling others out for not having worked a single day in a "proper job"

2018-05-20 18:55:59 UTC  

i dont like her either

2018-05-20 19:16:44 UTC  

I mean it's credibility thing really

2018-05-20 19:17:26 UTC  

its funny cuz she was part of goldman sachs