Message from @Stryker

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2018-09-21 20:44:14 UTC  

and do you think that "side benefit" outweighs people getting killed all the time over some totally stupid shit

2018-09-21 20:44:17 UTC  

1. there are like 30k gun deaths a year, the over whelming majority of them are suicides and those that are murders are almost all from gang violence

2018-09-21 20:44:30 UTC  

2. theres no reasonable means to get rid of guns already here

2018-09-21 20:44:49 UTC  

why are you saying it like suicides weren't a problem too?

2018-09-21 20:44:58 UTC  

people are more eager to kill themselves if they have a gun

2018-09-21 20:45:04 UTC  

its the easiest way

2018-09-21 20:45:48 UTC  

japan has the highest suicide rate and the strictest gun control

2018-09-21 20:45:57 UTC  

>2. theres no reasonable means to get rid of guns already here
you have no law enforcement in the US ?

2018-09-21 20:46:33 UTC  

i understand suicide is a problem and im not trying to mitigate it, but you cant bring up gun violence and then be oh look suicides count too. They're important but its clearly not a violence problem

2018-09-21 20:46:34 UTC  

yes and japan has a hundreds years old culture of suicide whats the point

2018-09-21 20:47:03 UTC  

and awful working conditions and education environment, same with other countries in east asia

2018-09-21 20:47:06 UTC  

usa doesnt share that

2018-09-21 20:47:13 UTC  

theres like a million other countries that have worse rates

2018-09-21 20:47:19 UTC  

killing yourself is violence too

2018-09-21 20:47:25 UTC  

like i said thats kind of irrelevant to this whole thing and belongs in a seperate category

2018-09-21 20:47:29 UTC  

>theres like a million other countries that have worse rates
like which fucking ones

2018-09-21 20:47:36 UTC  

no first world country comes even close to your hellhole

2018-09-21 20:48:00 UTC  

sweden

2018-09-21 20:48:06 UTC  

talking suicides here

2018-09-21 20:48:12 UTC  

anyway

2018-09-21 20:48:17 UTC  

gun wise you cant confiscate guns

2018-09-21 20:48:19 UTC  

it wont work

2018-09-21 20:48:20 UTC  

why are you talking about suicides

2018-09-21 20:48:29 UTC  

im talking about gun violence

2018-09-21 20:48:34 UTC  

suicides by guns are gun violence too

2018-09-21 20:48:38 UTC  

>its going to be advantageous
I have already said what I think about an advantage like that. It's like throwing pearls at foes.
also, don't you have on average like a mass shooting 6 out of 7 days somewhere in the us?
Of today I've got an message there were already 3 past the last 24 hours

2018-09-21 20:48:40 UTC  

because thats 2/3rds of our gun deaths

2018-09-21 20:48:52 UTC  

>it wont work

you have no law enforcement?

2018-09-21 20:48:55 UTC  

ok first let me address ghoul

2018-09-21 20:49:53 UTC  

>theres something that the worlds most powerful country cant do

2018-09-21 20:49:53 UTC  

>suicides
well, I'm just saying, but everyone has a moment during their lifetime when they feel a little down, and having a gun nearby isn't maybe the best option

2018-09-21 20:49:55 UTC  

meh dissapointing

2018-09-21 20:49:57 UTC  

america has no registration of guns, so theres no means to know who has what for one. Secondly, you also have the fact that most gun owning Americans aren't just going to give them away like Australians did for examples. So this is just going to create a huge black market for which there is no reasonable means to go against.

2018-09-21 20:50:40 UTC  

also the 6-7 mass shootings a week is a meme, its mostly gang violence because those statistics use any shooting in which 3 or more people are involved which is usually drug related

2018-09-21 20:50:52 UTC  

not a massacre like the others ones

2018-09-21 20:51:12 UTC  

dont take the guns away

2018-09-21 20:51:22 UTC  

that'd actually trigger a civil war in your hellhole, kek

2018-09-21 20:51:23 UTC  

>Americans aren't just going to give them away
>So this is just going to create a huge black market for which there is no reasonable means to go against.
They don't have to. Banning guns won't eliminate the problem, but it certainly will rise their price on black market. And that alone will exclude many people from having guns

2018-09-21 20:51:40 UTC  

make the laws in place so an 18 yo can't walk into a shop and buy a fucking machine gun with no checks whatsoever

2018-09-21 20:52:07 UTC  

```They don't have to. Banning guns won't eliminate the problem, but it certainly will rise their price on black market. And that alone will exclude many people from having guns
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2018-09-21 20:52:16 UTC  

yes there are literally like 400m guns in the country