what happened stryker you were so certain once

now you're only like >oh yeah ekshuli guns are bad but we cant do anything :/

also the other element of this argument is that if those shoot outs are even preventable, same thing for most homicides which are gang related. America has a lot of crime period regardless of guns, so its arguable if any gun regulation would even have a major impact on crime related stuff because most criminals use illegally aquired guns

what

im not saying guns are bad

im saying even if you wanted to you couldnt get rid of them

because you're against the odds

>oh yeh climeat change isnt really a chinese hoax but uhhh weeellll

i dont want them gone, infact i think we need more

fuck I reverted 2 years of our efforts

shouldn't have said that

but the best argument is to just show how your opponents argument is shitty and flawed

> most criminals use illegally aquired guns
well then banning them would make the access to those guns more difficult (and thus make the illegal ones more expensive)

>we need more guns

well then banning them would make the access to those guns more difficult (and thus make the illegal ones more expensive)

no it wouldnt

because there are already hundreds of millions of guns, its an uncontrollable black market like i said

dude this is the US

they have no such thing as government

not to mention we border latin america my dude

no proper law enforcement

its a wild west

if they banned guns i would just get one of pedro

off

in kangarooland it did. So much that barely anyone can afford them because they cost a fortune

they only have a government to wage wars and subsidy their corpojews

```in kangarooland it did. So much that barely anyone can afford them because they cost a fortune(edited)
``` The aussies gave them in voluntarily, which will never happen in the US for 1. Also they don't have the cartels right on their border

the gun culture in the US is entirely different to what the aussies had

like as if every aussie did

not everyone

sure some of them kept them, but you'd never see more than maybe 10% of gun owners give their guns up

its a generalization dumby

I'm certain their prices wouldn't drop instantly, but that's a step in the right direction and they would rise over time

guns are probably more expensive now than they would be if they were banned, because thats just a new market for the cartels and such to get in

the nyou couldnt regulate guns period

just ban the guns

because people would just get full autos

plus the black market would already be there in the fucking HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS

muh black market

thats the problem, its not like we have a hundred thousand guns that can easily be tracked down

there are more guns than people