Message from @Civil反出生主义War1876

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2018-02-25 17:54:52 UTC  

and whenever the people feel they're going too far, those people are anti-american.
what do you think allowed that myopic division between rep and dem?
the constitution

2018-02-25 17:55:21 UTC  

No, that was the establishment.

2018-02-25 17:55:50 UTC  

The most American thing you can do, according to our own Declaration of Independence, is to abolish the current government.

2018-02-25 17:56:17 UTC  

every town deserves the right to determine themselves free of the state, and free of the nation around them

2018-02-25 17:56:42 UTC  

Every person has that right.

2018-02-25 17:56:55 UTC  

The state, however, does not want to lose control of it's slaves.

2018-02-25 17:57:05 UTC  

The people are currently property of the state.

2018-02-25 17:57:36 UTC  

right.
nationalist ideology stands as a beneficiary of this control as well

2018-02-25 17:58:40 UTC  

Exactly.

2018-02-25 17:58:57 UTC  

Modern slavery has always been about control through deception and misdirection.

2018-02-25 17:59:50 UTC  

Restriction of options, rather.

2018-02-25 18:00:07 UTC  

funny.
this is why i get along with lib-right almost as well as i get along with other libsocs like myself.
it indeed seems possible for us to leave each other alone

2018-02-25 18:00:17 UTC  

You're not enslaved by being unaware of your surroundings, rather, in today's modern capitalist climate, you just can't do much about it

2018-02-25 18:01:19 UTC  

Very true.

2018-02-25 18:01:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/417380609032454145/power_structures.png

2018-02-25 18:02:09 UTC  

The only thing that can be done with this current situation is the complete overthrow and abolition of current government.

2018-02-25 18:02:24 UTC  

*ONLY*

2018-02-25 18:02:29 UTC  

That's it.

2018-02-25 18:02:42 UTC  

Nothing else will work.

2018-02-25 18:02:42 UTC  

And how do you propose for this?

2018-02-25 18:02:50 UTC  

I would go so far as to say that not even that will work

2018-02-25 18:02:55 UTC  

There is nothing else to do

2018-02-25 18:03:03 UTC  
2018-02-25 18:03:07 UTC  

Their is a path

2018-02-25 18:03:12 UTC  

alternative to all others

2018-02-25 18:03:41 UTC  

Have militia target every government official under NDAA.

2018-02-25 18:03:59 UTC  

They're all guilty by association so there won't be any friendly fire.

2018-02-25 18:04:00 UTC  

operation valkyre failed bro

2018-02-25 18:04:13 UTC  

@Deleted User He is a troll.

2018-02-25 18:04:16 UTC  

agorism is the only valid method of revolution

2018-02-25 18:04:17 UTC  

oh

2018-02-25 18:04:44 UTC  

Other than removing every government official...what is there to do?

2018-02-25 18:04:52 UTC  

agorism

2018-02-25 18:05:15 UTC  

it's what lenin did

2018-02-25 18:05:29 UTC  

also proudhon supported it

2018-02-25 18:05:39 UTC  

I would suggest the abolition of _capital_ as a very concept, but capital is so deeply rooted in all modern societies , plus worldwide capitalist deterritorialization meaning that even if an entire country abolished capital _somehow_, it would mean nothing because all other countries would put a stop to it (see Sankara), that the only way to abolish capital would be too destroy all of civilization, which just isn't happening.

2018-02-25 18:05:48 UTC  

I can't look it up, explorer is fucked.

2018-02-25 18:05:57 UTC  

@Civil反出生主义War1876 You cna actuall do that

2018-02-25 18:06:05 UTC  

by making civilization obselete

2018-02-25 18:06:06 UTC  

You can't try a revolution because capital would just come back, look at Thomas Sankara or the ELZN

2018-02-25 18:06:09 UTC  

via cyberneticism