also were tthey against erdogan attaining more powers?

They're against literally everything Erdoğan does, even good things

were they against it?

That's their entire party

im not familiar with their manifesto

im not even familiar with parties in turkey tbh

but im pretty sure theres someone with western-liberal views

and these are the people you should support if you share these values

Yes, the LDP

They get 0.04% of the votes <:haha:318675605233336330>

oh fuck

lukaku..

I vote İyi Parti until the rarted 10% election threshold is removed

After which I will vote for LDP

what's up gamers

they are socdem whats wrong with them?

>wikipedia says they're socdem so they must be socdem
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@Swiss Dave Hi Dave ❤

They're catch-all now

Since they lost 9 elections now to Erdoğan

and HDP

>parties' self-descriptions on wikipedia are an accurate depiction of the actual's party alignment and ideology

yo kotek

Because their entire party is literally just anti-everything-Erdoğan-does

HDP is pure garbage, they're literally far left and with ties to the PKK

wikipedia usually explicitly says what is self description

and how the party is descripted by others

and also I very much doubt they are not socdem

<:haha:318675605233336330>

Okay Ghoul

nowadays political labels mean everything and the opposite of everything

they're useless

nope

nope

they are alright

its you who dont understand them

why am I talking with ghoul again

Dave how was your cheese?

@Cielodiluna di Bisanzio care to elaborate how is HDP non socdem?

the cheese is very

uhh