Message from @Cielodiluna di Bisanzio
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thats the point, you want to have a secular state
also were tthey against erdogan attaining more powers?
They're against literally everything Erdoğan does, even good things
were they against it?
That's their entire party
im not familiar with their manifesto
im not even familiar with parties in turkey tbh
but im pretty sure theres someone with western-liberal views
and these are the people you should support if you share these values
Yes, the LDP
They get 0.04% of the votes <:haha:318675605233336330>
oh fuck
lukaku..
I vote İyi Parti until the rarted 10% election threshold is removed
After which I will vote for LDP
what's up gamers
they are socdem whats wrong with them?
>wikipedia says they're socdem so they must be socdem
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@Swiss Dave Hi Dave ❤
They're catch-all now
and HDP
>parties' self-descriptions on wikipedia are an accurate depiction of the actual's party alignment and ideology
yo kotek
Because their entire party is literally just anti-everything-Erdoğan-does
HDP is pure garbage, they're literally far left and with ties to the PKK
wikipedia usually explicitly says what is self description
and how the party is descripted by others
and also I very much doubt they are not socdem
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Okay Ghoul
nowadays political labels mean everything and the opposite of everything
they're useless
nope
nope
they are alright
its you who dont understand them
why am I talking with ghoul again
Dave how was your cheese?
@Cielodiluna di Bisanzio care to elaborate how is HDP non socdem?
the cheese is very