how many people do you think were in the ussr at that time

@Deleted User commiting suicide? Are you just taking this shit out of your imbecile head?

@kwame Were killed from stalin's actions, that INLCUDED NOT JUST the purges, but many more of his actions.

@Firefly Nope, you combine a bankrupt econonomy, plus subvertive capitalism and democracy, as well as the west asian countries declaring independance, and the west applying immense amounts of pressure on the USSR, it is no wonder why it collapsed.

the ussr being capitalist is one of my favorite theories

can you describe capitalism and how the ussr was so

@Deleted User Collapsed?

ussr sure as hell didn't produce for profit

there were no business cycles

@kwame I didn't claim that the USSR was capitalist, but subversive capitalism and democracy was more and more rampant in the USSR the older it got.

that's fair enough

Rex, do you know that 20 years USSR and USA been "friends" and have you heard of perestroika?

there were lots of pro-capitalist reforms to the end

that's not good

@Sausagelover78 we appreciate your hard work

@Firefly What? Did you try to speak english?

@kwame The gorbachev and yeltsin era's could easily be considered capitalist.

@Deleted User come on, be fair, they're being pretty clear

@kwame not quite imo, but definitely tending that way

more and more market reforms were destroying the social economy

shit i highlighted myself, lol, that was meant for @Deleted User

@Deleted User What pressure, what collapse? You are a fool who knows absolute zero about the subject. Perestroika been planned for 20 years. It was a decision of the majority.

the planning system in the ussr was pretty bad, it could've been majorly improved i think

politics kept it the same

By the time you get to yeltsin, he preforms a violent coup detat, and destroys the last remains of the soviet union, and has the soviet congress disbanded by burning down their congressional building.

the planned economy is the only way to get out of capitalism

@Firefly Had been planned? Well why was it never executed then?

@Deleted User That is not a collapse of the economy is a political coup.

@Firefly Wow, you really are not reading tonight are you?

@Deleted User It was executed for 20 fucking years imbecile.

@Firefly Hey pal, it isn't my issue if I cannot read anything you post because it is all gramatically fucked.

i hate to be the peace bitch but could we be a bit less hostile

it's not productive

@Deleted User You can't read anything on the fucking subject outside of this conversation as well.

conflict is fine but rudeness doesn't help

@Firefly Ooooh.

@Firefly You been hitting the vodka hard again?

@Deleted User 20 fucking years of perestroika Karl!

@Firefly What?

@Firefly That book was written in 1917, that's a lot more than 20 years.

Aaaaand he's offline.