We want them as a NATO partner

They're always starting shit.

For our strategic positioning in the east

Fuck NATO.

We don't need NATO at all.

We use them as a base of operations against "Russian aggression"

And now terrorists

And I wouldn't be so sure.

Then we need to ally with Russia immediately.

We just had Russia invade Ukraine and get away with it lmao

If NATO dissolves

Then what lol

If NATO dissolves, nothing would happen.

Only there would no longer be a standard quo of anti imperialism against Russia

One they already showed they dont care about too much anyway

But there is a reason they went after Ukraine

If we ally with Russia, there would be no more fighting and NATO would be irrelevant.

And not a NATO member

Good.

And we won't ally with Russia

Russia is more powerful that NATO.

No it isnt

We still maintain the first use policy

Russia and the US have an opportunity to control all militaristic activity.

And what NATO is, is a line in the sand saying We'll nuke the shit out of you

It you invade these countries

Ukraine wasnt on that list of countries.

Then why can't we have NATO stick around while US and Russia become allies to conduct peacekeeping operations and end the fighting completely?

Because thats in neither party's interests?

The only reason Russia is there is to project power abroad

And to try and fill a void the US left

So...fighting is within every party's interest?

Yes, essentially

They're jockeying for competing positions

I.e. hedgemon in the east

Then the only way for fighting to stop is if these empires are made to look like the assholes that have killed millions of innocent people...not ISIS.

Yea but they already look like that

And nobody cares

Because Liberalism

More like nationalism.

What a disease.