And what NATO is, is a line in the sand saying We'll nuke the shit out of you

It you invade these countries

Ukraine wasnt on that list of countries.

Then why can't we have NATO stick around while US and Russia become allies to conduct peacekeeping operations and end the fighting completely?

Because thats in neither party's interests?

The only reason Russia is there is to project power abroad

And to try and fill a void the US left

So...fighting is within every party's interest?

Yes, essentially

They're jockeying for competing positions

I.e. hedgemon in the east

Then the only way for fighting to stop is if these empires are made to look like the assholes that have killed millions of innocent people...not ISIS.

Yea but they already look like that

And nobody cares

Because Liberalism

More like nationalism.

What a disease.

No, it's Liberalism

Its become profitable

Its entirely not the problem of our countries,

That's why we do it.

And we're dispencing "democracy"

We exchange civilian lives for money.

And "human rights"

So

This is basically a fuck all situation then.

Yea its Liberal Capitalism trying to create more client states

And no I mean

The fighting will go on

Trading innocent lives for profits.

And eventually someone is going to "win"

Like Afghanistan

If there will be a winner, it has to happen soon.

We did all that fighting, left,

And the Taliban just took everything over again lol

And it won't be soon, these things take forever

Then it looks like the fighting will be endless.

Which is exactly what defense contractors want.

Now we all know who's really in charge.

Well we've always known this

War is no longer so much of a costly endeavor, and instead is a business opportunity