Message from @Brandod

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2018-03-08 07:21:48 UTC  

you create 10 chairs and I say have me 8 of them

2018-03-08 07:21:52 UTC  

@herb i said yes, i do have means of production

2018-03-08 07:21:54 UTC  

Is that right?

2018-03-08 07:22:34 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/421206076235448320/unknown.png

2018-03-08 07:22:35 UTC  

can I do that does that seem right to you

2018-03-08 07:22:37 UTC  

does your means of production have other people working it to create commodities on a market and produce value?

2018-03-08 07:22:38 UTC  

pretty close to yours

2018-03-08 07:22:55 UTC  

@herb if you provide the tools and materials

2018-03-08 07:22:56 UTC  

why are you ignoring the question

2018-03-08 07:22:59 UTC  

seems like a good deal

2018-03-08 07:23:12 UTC  

every debate with reactionaries always boils down to fucking semantics

2018-03-08 07:23:24 UTC  

good way of avoiding any substance i suppose

2018-03-08 07:23:34 UTC  

I am trying to respond to everyone

2018-03-08 07:23:43 UTC  

I admit my wpm is pretty slow

2018-03-08 07:23:43 UTC  

you are not being charitable or intellectually honest

2018-03-08 07:23:49 UTC  

if i don't answer just @ me

2018-03-08 07:24:01 UTC  

you are redefining terminology to avoid the meat of the argument

2018-03-08 07:24:07 UTC  
2018-03-08 07:24:17 UTC  

''i own a MOP''

2018-03-08 07:24:25 UTC  

a computer and brain is not a means of production in this context

2018-03-08 07:24:31 UTC  

yes i have the means to produce something

2018-03-08 07:24:42 UTC  

that isn't an abstract idiom you dingus

2018-03-08 07:24:45 UTC  

MOP != Things that produce things

2018-03-08 07:24:50 UTC  

🤔

2018-03-08 07:25:08 UTC  

it refers to tools and instruments/land used within a market economy that produces commodities or services necessary to create value

2018-03-08 07:25:12 UTC  

its like rentiong out a house

2018-03-08 07:25:20 UTC  

Oops

2018-03-08 07:25:36 UTC  

I dont do anything

2018-03-08 07:25:40 UTC  

and I get money from it

2018-03-08 07:26:09 UTC  

Dictionary definition fallacy on that capitalism

2018-03-08 07:26:29 UTC  

@herb to be fair someone who rents out a house usually does manage the property and many associated things

2018-03-08 07:26:41 UTC  
2018-03-08 07:26:41 UTC  

??

2018-03-08 07:27:26 UTC  

@Brandod fallacy fallacy go shoot yourself in the fucking head

2018-03-08 07:27:29 UTC  

@herb my neighbors love renting their house because the owner takes care of maintenance and repairs

2018-03-08 07:27:36 UTC  
2018-03-08 07:27:45 UTC  

to be able to rent out

2018-03-08 07:27:47 UTC  

bat, I recognize that is anecdotal

2018-03-08 07:27:51 UTC  

it neeeds to be profitable

2018-03-08 07:28:01 UTC  

you are literaly leeching of people

2018-03-08 07:28:12 UTC  

yup, you can make a profit and the convenience is still worth it for many people