Message from @rogalik

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2019-12-15 16:27:49 UTC  

if you let everyone in

2019-12-15 16:27:58 UTC  

then why dozens of thousands of deportations

2019-12-15 16:28:05 UTC  

spd was critical on that

2019-12-15 16:28:13 UTC  

public backlash

2019-12-15 16:28:18 UTC  

spd can afford to be "critical"

2019-12-15 16:28:25 UTC  

becaus they are just junior partner

2019-12-15 16:28:31 UTC  

and they have this delusion of salvation

2019-12-15 16:28:58 UTC  

but if they werent the centre-left party they wouldn't talk of such things

2019-12-15 16:29:23 UTC  

ist pretty minor thing if you want to keep all immigrants or just most of them imo

2019-12-15 16:29:28 UTC  

if cdu had lets say some other party as the junior partner, someone right wing, then they wouldn't have anything against deportations

2019-12-15 16:29:50 UTC  

I dont believe that

2019-12-15 16:30:00 UTC  

the cdu is capable of criticizing itself

2019-12-15 16:30:25 UTC  

its not falling apart for no reason

2019-12-15 16:30:45 UTC  

theres no big difference but oyu as a country are forced into this position because of your demographics

2019-12-15 16:30:50 UTC  

akk got shat on big time until recently because they just now realize they have no other option

2019-12-15 16:30:54 UTC  

before that it was split

2019-12-15 16:31:04 UTC  

either you get lotsa migrants or your social system collapses

2019-12-15 16:31:06 UTC  

no we arent forced into that

2019-12-15 16:31:15 UTC  

incentives for breeding

2019-12-15 16:31:55 UTC  

these don't work you already have and had them in place for a long time

2019-12-15 16:31:57 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/427861399008575499/655809284038328320/1280px-Germanypop.png

2019-12-15 16:32:08 UTC  

make them stronger duh

2019-12-15 16:32:16 UTC  

make them irresistible

2019-12-15 16:32:28 UTC  

and you won't fill the holes that are already in even if you somehow managed to raise the birthrate

2019-12-15 16:32:36 UTC  

you are naive

2019-12-15 16:32:56 UTC  

I prefer the term optimistic

2019-12-15 16:33:01 UTC  

the most of the western world has this problem and has had it for decades

2019-12-15 16:33:04 UTC  

do you really think

2019-12-15 16:33:10 UTC  

no one wouldn't try to solve it differently?

2019-12-15 16:33:30 UTC  

that the first thing that came upon them was taking in immigrants and nothing else was tried

2019-12-15 16:33:33 UTC  

yes

2019-12-15 16:33:44 UTC  

it's a well known thing that "birth incentives" don't provide

2019-12-15 16:34:16 UTC  

we've had one, quite a significant one(1/4 of the minimum monthly wage for a kid) installed here

2019-12-15 16:34:24 UTC  

how much do you think it raised the birthrate?

2019-12-15 16:34:30 UTC  

dunno

2019-12-15 16:35:49 UTC  

we've had 1.368 fertility rate in 2015

2019-12-15 16:36:02 UTC  

*1,386

2019-12-15 16:36:36 UTC  

2016 - 1,403; 2017 - 1,420, 2018 - 1,429

2019-12-15 16:36:41 UTC  

reminder you need 2,0

2019-12-15 16:36:49 UTC  

and these measures costs hmm

2019-12-15 16:37:00 UTC  

i see a good trend