Message from @rogalik

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2019-12-15 16:23:45 UTC  

spd and cdu are indistinguishable

2019-12-15 16:23:58 UTC  

they have to be by mere virtue of co ruling for 8 years

2019-12-15 16:24:30 UTC  

the greens are the cdu but with more taxes on environmental regulation

2019-12-15 16:24:45 UTC  

spd and cdu appeal to different constituences

2019-12-15 16:24:55 UTC  

spd is centre-left, cdu is centre-right

2019-12-15 16:25:02 UTC  

theoretically

2019-12-15 16:25:04 UTC  

cdu is more lax on economics

2019-12-15 16:25:12 UTC  

spd is more pro social welfare

2019-12-15 16:25:22 UTC  

spd is more pro immigration

2019-12-15 16:25:32 UTC  

spd is more pro russia

2019-12-15 16:25:41 UTC  

thats not even true

2019-12-15 16:25:48 UTC  

of course it is

2019-12-15 16:25:53 UTC  

only schröder is pro russia because he has a nice gig there

2019-12-15 16:26:13 UTC  

and the cdu chief was the one who opened our borders mind you

2019-12-15 16:26:34 UTC  

social welfare hasnt moved since the inception of hartz 4

2019-12-15 16:26:41 UTC  

there are figures in spd that are both hard against russia but there are many that would want a rapprochement with russia

2019-12-15 16:26:46 UTC  

and they are only lax insofar as they pocket lobby money

2019-12-15 16:26:53 UTC  

meanwhile in CDU they are pretty firm against Russia

2019-12-15 16:27:01 UTC  

nope

2019-12-15 16:27:07 UTC  

>and the cdu chief was the one who opened our borders mind you
and SPD wanted to do even more

2019-12-15 16:27:24 UTC  

>social welfare hasnt moved since the inception of hartz 4
because spd is a junior partner and cannot shape the economic policy

2019-12-15 16:27:24 UTC  

there is no more than letting everyone in

2019-12-15 16:27:49 UTC  

if you let everyone in

2019-12-15 16:27:58 UTC  

then why dozens of thousands of deportations

2019-12-15 16:28:05 UTC  

spd was critical on that

2019-12-15 16:28:13 UTC  

public backlash

2019-12-15 16:28:18 UTC  

spd can afford to be "critical"

2019-12-15 16:28:25 UTC  

becaus they are just junior partner

2019-12-15 16:28:31 UTC  

and they have this delusion of salvation

2019-12-15 16:28:58 UTC  

but if they werent the centre-left party they wouldn't talk of such things

2019-12-15 16:29:23 UTC  

ist pretty minor thing if you want to keep all immigrants or just most of them imo

2019-12-15 16:29:28 UTC  

if cdu had lets say some other party as the junior partner, someone right wing, then they wouldn't have anything against deportations

2019-12-15 16:29:50 UTC  

I dont believe that

2019-12-15 16:30:00 UTC  

the cdu is capable of criticizing itself

2019-12-15 16:30:25 UTC  

its not falling apart for no reason

2019-12-15 16:30:45 UTC  

theres no big difference but oyu as a country are forced into this position because of your demographics

2019-12-15 16:30:50 UTC  

akk got shat on big time until recently because they just now realize they have no other option

2019-12-15 16:30:54 UTC  

before that it was split

2019-12-15 16:31:04 UTC  

either you get lotsa migrants or your social system collapses

2019-12-15 16:31:06 UTC  

no we arent forced into that

2019-12-15 16:31:15 UTC  

incentives for breeding