Message from @ÜltraÜberGöttKönig

Discord ID: 598537592706695179


2019-07-10 14:20:12 UTC  

it could be worse

2019-07-10 14:20:20 UTC  

all I am saying is you have a stick up your ass

2019-07-10 14:20:26 UTC  

And again if not my autism about the rules several people would be banned here by neko and zgadnij without actual rule based reasons

2019-07-10 14:20:43 UTC  

of course there will always be worse people

2019-07-10 14:20:49 UTC  

doesnt mean you cant do better

2019-07-10 14:20:55 UTC  

I'll address that dynamic ecosystem thing later I need something to eat

2019-07-10 14:34:10 UTC  

And I have nothing against trying out a new general it's just my bet is that it wont get much traffic at all

2019-07-10 15:27:21 UTC  

So this self sustaining ecosystem thing simply doesnt stand up how would you even come up with that idea? Because we have growing activity for the second month in a row? I've seen more long term data and its evident that if you take out key members its just doesnt work anymore communities of this size aren't self sustaining at all either you constantly deliver fresh energy or they perish if you tell me not to post and bring in new people then we are going to have a 60% hit then another 60% next month and you end up with a server with max 5k monthly posts

2019-07-10 15:30:45 UTC  

imo its not about growth but people who decide to stay here do so because they like it and since they like it they will be content. So the people that need to be pleased are the ones that are on the server and they are pleased because they wouldnt be there otherwise. New members would perhaps dislike the climate and leave, in which case nothing of value was lost since they hadnt contributed to what makes users like the server or they stay and become one with the established culture

2019-07-10 15:31:19 UTC  

and you can always invite people if you want, they will be tested and compared to the current culture dynamically

2019-07-10 15:32:00 UTC  

not because rules hammer something into a perceived idea but because the actual behaviour creates unspoken rules, i.e. culture

2019-07-10 15:32:37 UTC  

its basically the free market principle applied to chatrooms

2019-07-10 15:32:53 UTC  

and the free market works great at what it does

2019-07-10 15:33:25 UTC  

We've had unspoken rules and we decided to get actual rules at some point and that's how it always was since that

2019-07-10 15:33:42 UTC  

Because unspoken rules are even way more contentious

2019-07-10 15:33:47 UTC  

I am not against having a few written rules at all

2019-07-10 15:33:55 UTC  

its just about the general approach to moderation

2019-07-10 15:33:56 UTC  

And there is more drama and arguments

2019-07-10 15:34:24 UTC  

How do you justify banning someone if there are unspoken rules it just seems outright arbitrary

2019-07-10 15:34:25 UTC  

I dont think drama is bad, long term

2019-07-10 15:34:42 UTC  

is it arbitrary to the people who came up with it?

2019-07-10 15:34:52 UTC  

no of course not

2019-07-10 15:35:05 UTC  

there is no need to conform to outside forces

2019-07-10 15:35:17 UTC  

this isnt real life after all

2019-07-10 15:36:32 UTC  

A few guys will be content with it and that's all the rest wont even know what they were punished for and it creates a huge barrier to the new ones this place is not mentioned to be a buddy server with an unspoken culture such places are almost impossible for an outsider to get into and integrate

2019-07-10 15:37:17 UTC  

exactly

2019-07-10 15:37:19 UTC  

thats the point

2019-07-10 15:37:23 UTC  

and its beautiful

2019-07-10 15:38:14 UTC  

Aaaand how is that domek we are supposed to be inclusive and open here

2019-07-10 15:38:46 UTC  

I think thats not necessary

2019-07-10 15:38:59 UTC  

because the vast majority of people here are inactive

2019-07-10 15:39:08 UTC  

those that are active are because of the system I described

2019-07-10 15:39:27 UTC  

its the "throw shit at wall and see what sticks" approach

2019-07-10 15:39:29 UTC  

and it works

2019-07-10 16:06:16 UTC  

blacks

2019-07-10 16:12:31 UTC  

btw. I think banning is nod needed entirely. Only thing that need to be used is guag of some sort (exclusion ) and that sufficient in almost every case (except illegal things)

2019-07-10 16:17:23 UTC  

I heard complaints against juan, tarzan and uber shitposting. And this capn shit.

2019-07-10 16:18:52 UTC  

So ye as ghoul said if it was up to me they would be banned cus they never listen to warnings and quality poster left because of them. And I'd rather have at least one of them back than have you all here. And creating this new server only to post nsfw on general channels is very childish imo.

2019-07-10 16:19:11 UTC  

kek thats not the reason

2019-07-10 16:19:23 UTC  

Well all that happened when I came there

2019-07-10 16:19:47 UTC  

naked dude and shit talking me cus cap is too much of a pussy to do it here.