Message from @yung
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no communism canโt be with a state
communism is stateless, moneyless, classless
socialism can be Marxist-Leninist with a worker run state
When Marx says stateless he means the bourgeo state
But no state no money and no class is best
no thatโs lower phase communism
itโs confusing because for Marx
lower phase is what we call Socialism
So do you believe in platformism
and higher phase is what we call full communism
FALGSC
or high phase I guess
Basically the state bad so is money and worker exploitation
but why would I be a platformist
Yes I understand I used to be an anarchist
Used to be
What is your ideology
Marxism-Leninism
But anarchism is the end goal
yes it is technically, I call it full communism but yeah
I just see leninism has having an opportunity for revisionism
Like in the ussr
I donโt think Leninism per se is revisionist
No no
but post Stalin USSR was revisionist
Revisionism is possible through leninism
I mean there are countless ideologies other than Leninism which are completely revisionist
much worse than Leninism
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Anarchism has the smallest amount of opertunity for revisionism
Stalin, makhno> khrushchev
I disagree I think Anarchism has never practically been what it claimed it is
How so
Catalonia wasnโt stateless
it was moneyless though
They were fighting the state
but also parts of China in Mao were moneyless
People in the cnt fai didn't rule over each other
The free territory was stateless and moneyless
No they didnโt but decision making in councils were relegated by cnt-fai officials not voted with consensus