It's unironically better than polytheist paganism in every sense

tfw idolizing authority unironically

Literally every metric

@galesteppes Yes. <:chad:431600553806790667>

many peoples voluntarily conveted to christiantiy, so I can believe it was better, but life would be so much more interesting if both existed still

You've got Hindus

Now that's an interesting thing to read up on: The intermixing between Hellenism and Hinduism

but did they merge their religons the other european religions like how the greek germanic norse etc were all similar?

nvm u just answered that

side note, looking through old photos yesterday, and turns out that I saw an gilgamesh statue before I knew who he was

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364051536453828611/666816800172015656/unknown.png

personally i find fedora tippers as annoying as you do fitzy but to go to the other extreme and imagine that early christian europe was some kind of boon, even that without christianity we weren't a great civilization, and couldn't be such, is retarded in equal measure

I mean from what ive heard romans brought a lot of inovations across europe to much less civilized cultures but the greek already had gucci toilets and everything

Paganism stemming all the way back to the bronze age was very "open minded". Basically, "well the people in the next city over worship a different god, lets worship that one alongside ours just to cover our bases", and that is the very oversimplified reason why so many pagan gods are very similar and spread so far.

Even Judaism was originally polytheistic.

yeha thats one of the reasons the polytheistic religions seem like they could be better to me, because unlike abrahamic religions they dont seem to be so against omni-critical thinking for the sake of self preservation, and I wonder, so polytheistic greece survived, would it have had a much earlier renaissance considering they had the basis of the sciontific method 2k years ago, and the main opposition to the philosophy of the scientific method is abrahamic religions that push to the extreem the idea that you should just believe some things without question, aristotle would not aprove

Blame Plato, it's all his fault.

Seriously, fuck Plato.

lol

Also fuck Kant.

Im so glad aristotle existed just so he could show how flawed plato was to the rest of humanity throughout time

Too bad they didn't fucking listen.

we listened <:pepehands:378719408367075333>

Then Kant fucked it all up again.

new brain who dis?

Immanuel Kant

lol just read his wiki bio, "space in time are just things in themselves but their nature is unknowable"

how do these cretins come to be

its like when instead of actually reading the melian dialogue people just hear the quote "the strong do what they can, while the weak suffer what they must" and then go all 'but the strong could be nice to people, its just that the capitalists/bourjois zee are evil' even tho the melians said this, and the athenians then explained thousands of years ago fully explains why this thinking is horse shit

@meratrix There's an argument to be made that humans didn't full reach conciousness until the 3rd century BC, around the time of the philosophers, and when polytheistic systems started to develop metaphysical substructure to describe them

There were plenty of philosophers well before that.

So it went from "The other guys worship a different God" to "the God is a manifestation of X"

And how are you defining consciousness?

Well the gods were all still manifestations, but each city had their own.

The ability to congnisate

Think about thinking

It's evident in the stories as well

Prior to this, the Greek myths delegate pretty much all actions onto the relevant God associated with it.

Afterwards, the gods become less involved, and their favor it asked for, but actioms and free thought are associated with individuals

? as far as im concerned all you need for consciousness is language, because without that you cant ask yourself questions about yourself, you just are, and in that state you are like an animal, and if you cant ask yourself if you exist then you dont know anything 'I think therefore I am'

That may also have to do with how the history was sourced. Much of the earlier history and the myths were oral before they were written down, where as the later stuff, especially in Rome, was very heavily documented.

And as with much oral history, "it sounds cool add that to the story".