No clue. I guess someone wanted their woobie in a hoodie form.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gunpolitics/comments/egt1yy/a_bellingham_washington_man_shot_and_killed_his/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

lol the fuck?

An anti gunner using a gun to commit murder

Then laments on using said gun and blames the evil NRA for letting him keep it

That’s pure comedy gold

I saw another case where an anti gunner murdered her kids and then killed herself

With a gun of course

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/a-waste-texas-gun-control-activist-shoots-her-three-children-dead-in-murder-suicide

I'm pretty sure there is a considerable portion of anto-gunners that are anti-gun because they dont trust themselves with a gun and assume everyone is as fucked in the head as they are.

That and the issues here are a bit more complex than a simple claim to irony, but I am too tired to dig into that can of worms.

Yeah

Still pretty ironic as hell though lol

@Fartfignewton I think there is some truth to that because they do seem to think that if someone has a gun they'll just shoot someone for no reason

Just because they can

Yeah if I start hearing that argument from someone I start thinking I'm talking with a not completely stable person.

Well you can't entirely fault that stance given the constant reports in the news of road rage and the like resulting in idiots pulling guns on people for stupid reasons making everyone look bad.

Goes back to that self policing thing we were talking about yesterday.

True

But what could we do about it to stop them from doing it? We'll always have dumb people who pull guns out like that, and it's not like we can control their actions

I get that we can police ourselves

But how can we police them?

The best way is through education. Though one could argue for social engineering through public shaming and exclusion like many Asian countries do.

I see

What do you guys think of the SIG P320/M17/M18 pistol?

Better than glock?

dont drop it

lol

Didn't they fix the drop fire issue though?

i think so but it is a easy blow to make people on the internet laugh

it is like any other full size service pistol

Do people still bitch about the bore axis like the other SIG pistols?

I haven't gotten too much time on the M17. Work has got me packing the new gen 5 G19.

Part of me wants the M17 from a collector's perspective

Due to it being a service pistol

Because to be honest I never had much interest in the P320 at first until it became adopted lol

I know the glock fanboys are shaking their fists and foaming at the mouth for not adopting the glock

idk would any of you say the P320 was the better choice in the end?

In terms of what the military wanted, yes. In terms of glock vs 320, yes. In terms of price...the sig I think was more expensive.

Was the SIG really more expensive? I thought SIG underbid their contract while glock's contract was more expensive