Message from @Killerratchet

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2019-12-30 04:01:12 UTC  

I personally go with FPC and occasionally go with GOA. Both are good and way better than the fucking NRA

2019-12-30 04:01:26 UTC  

Yeah fuck the NRA

2019-12-30 04:01:46 UTC  

They're the reason why we have gun laws that haven't gone away like the NFA and machine gun ban

2019-12-30 04:02:21 UTC  

Heard they promised they would fight the machine gun ban in court and egged Reagan to sign it

2019-12-30 04:02:24 UTC  

Which they never did

2019-12-30 04:03:08 UTC  

Shocker the NRA not doing something they said they would

2019-12-30 04:03:26 UTC  

Or their public statement supporting the bumpstock ban

2019-12-30 04:05:01 UTC  

@Fartfignewton What is your idea of a counter offensive

2019-12-30 04:05:10 UTC  

And how would we go about it?

2019-12-30 04:06:16 UTC  

Literally go after all NFA items

2019-12-30 04:06:33 UTC  

I'm not legally savvy

2019-12-30 04:06:44 UTC  

I kinda am

2019-12-30 04:06:54 UTC  

Keep in mind I’m self taught 😎

2019-12-30 04:06:59 UTC  

But as I understand it

2019-12-30 04:07:40 UTC  

In the 70s congress passed the federal agency act (I think that’s what it was called) allowing federal agencies to enforce agency policy as if it was law

2019-12-30 04:07:56 UTC  

Super non democratic

2019-12-30 04:08:20 UTC  

Total repeal of the NFA

2019-12-30 04:08:47 UTC  

Basically any administrative body in an agency (none of whom are democratically elected) can make up rules on a whim and enforce those rules as law with government backing

2019-12-30 04:09:17 UTC  

@Jedimind11[XB1] That explains how the ATF makes up shit and can enforce it even though no laws passed

2019-12-30 04:09:24 UTC  

Exactly

2019-12-30 04:09:55 UTC  

@Itcilis That's a wet dream of mine

2019-12-30 04:09:57 UTC  

Or the FDA

2019-12-30 04:10:19 UTC  

Or how they can try and bring a guy to court for selling 80% lowers and charging people for classes on finishing them. Since he technically didn’t sell them a full firearm by the ATFs definition the ATF was gonna lose the court case

2019-12-30 04:10:44 UTC  

A judge (this was Cali) Warned them that they’d lose thus setting legal precedent

2019-12-30 04:10:51 UTC  

So they dropped the case

2019-12-30 04:11:04 UTC  

Which is SUPER corrupt and should not be a legal thing.

2019-12-30 04:11:17 UTC  

Getting advanced notice of a verdict and dropping a case

2019-12-30 04:11:34 UTC  

Fucking Cali

2019-12-30 04:11:39 UTC  

What a shithole

2019-12-30 04:12:03 UTC  

Preventing that legal precedent let’s the ATF avoid future cases where someone could do the same and be legally protected because a court precedent would overshadow their policies

2019-12-30 04:12:16 UTC  

I swear the courts and the ATF are buddy buddies with each other

2019-12-30 04:12:43 UTC  

Seen so many guns cases where the fucking court is biased with the ATF and rules in their favor

2019-12-30 04:12:51 UTC  

Since In a common law system (that’s our legal system) court decisions are interpreted as actual law or rather how we are supposed to interpret law

2019-12-30 04:13:35 UTC  

Give me 2 minutes to freshen up on the NFA history before I say some thing wrong

2019-12-30 04:13:42 UTC  

This is coming full circle don’t worry

2019-12-30 04:13:47 UTC  

Sounds good

2019-12-30 04:14:23 UTC  

Ok so as I understand it

2019-12-30 04:14:38 UTC  

The NFA was passed as a way of classifying and better taxing firearms

2019-12-30 04:14:49 UTC  

It wasn’t gun control

2019-12-30 04:17:22 UTC  

The NFA itself only prohibits 2 things. Silencers and automatic weapons. Which automatic weapons was in response to the Valentine’s Day massacre

2019-12-30 04:17:41 UTC  

And silencers I heard was due to poachers?