Nah, the whole UN NWO, agenda 21 garbage is just lies to manipulate the stupid. Sad thing about the firearms demographic is that they are really dumb and easy to manipulate.

That's really any demographic though. Let's be fair

Meh....not really. Its super easy to manipulate the stupids in this demographic. That's why we had such a mess in NY a few weeks ago.

Well the firearm industry is fueled with fear

"BUY THIS BEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION BEFORE IT GETS BANNED"

I'm not saying it isnt, I'm saying every large group is going to have a lot of people on the back side of the bell curve when it comes to idiots.

Indeed it is, which is neither healthy nor sustainable.

Had an AD3 in my last squadron who was a flat earther... they're everywhere and they're multiplying

Well the difference is that if you try to pander to lets say; mechanics, and you are doing it to try to cover up your own criminal misdeeds. You are not gonna get far.

On the other hand its extremely easy for the criminal element to manipulate the fringe gun demographic to come to their aid and support.

I never saw the relevance if the earth were flat or not

Doesn't change what's going on now

Anti vaxxers...

I am not saying there aren't stupid people everywhere, its just that stupid and dangerous doesn't mix well.

Yeah but if you pander to Anti-vaxxers you just get a lot of really stupid uneducated protesting the sale of Diahydroginmonoxide(water).

Pander to the lunatics with guns...and you get people shooting up walmarts.

Well you also get plague outbreaks.

That too. Which is why we have to declare public health crisis and make people stop being stupid.

I agree stupid and dangerous doesnt mix. And I'm the last person that wants to fight and even more uphill battle because stupid people did something stupid with a gun

Indeed, however there are a lot of dumb wannabes out their who want to live out their rambo(who was the villian) fantasies and that just back fires on us. We need to police ourselves better if we don't want the government doing it.

I just dont like playing into the talking points for reasons we shouldn't have guns.

It's up to us to police our own and call out the idiots

Lol we typed the same thing

And that is the problem. People don't want to do that, mainly because its not an easy solution. And the idiots don't want it done because they want to hang on to their fantasies.
I have seen combat, its not fun and I can't understand how anyone especially people with no experience and no real training think that its fun idea.

People actually think combat is fun are ignorant about it

All fun and games until you get a bullet in your neck

Everyone wants to be a badass

Well most of that is because they are losers and think that in a shake up of society they can be the badass fantasy they have in their heads, not aware that they would still be just as big a loser then.

If you feel you got nothing to lose I guess combat wouldn't be scary to those people. But hey I'm just a civie so I guess I'm not qualified to answer that

You don't even have to get to the shooting part. Carrying and wearing gear 24/7 is a pain in the ass. Then you have the stress of having to constantly be on edge and on the look out. You are always tired, hungry wet and hot or cold.

And those little hotspots that you can get and blister up. Not so cool if you can’t keep it clean and it gets infected and you die

Although I have read and heard of some people who do miss combat who fought

Hell there was a soldier who fought in different armies around WW2 to vietnam just to keep fighting

Legit moved to the US just to fight in vietnam

@Killerratchet that is true, you do grow accustomed to it. And when you aren't doing it you get what is called the "itch" and long for it. Then when you get back to it, you remember how much it sucks and just want to go home again. Its a fucked up cycle.

Grass is greener on the other side situation huh?

Pretty much. I get the itch, and I ignore it as much as I can.

I'll be honest, I feel like I missed out throughout my deployments. Didnt see much when I was flying in 5th fleet.

Lot of training for nothing. Oh well

There was one vet I remember that seemed pretty enthusiastic talking about his combat experience

Ugh we have a lot of big mouthed fobbits here. Guys who joined up to be special forces badasses and just ended up cleaning toilets.

Now I'm doing an instructor tour and probably wont do a flying deployment again until I make O4

When he blew someone up with an M203 he was all "There were guts everywhere it was pretty rad"