Message from @Orc

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2018-05-01 15:18:54 UTC  

some are men, some are women

2018-05-01 15:19:06 UTC  

no, but i'm sure they must share a common belief of some kind

2018-05-01 15:19:14 UTC  

As in there are many different tendencies

2018-05-01 15:19:31 UTC  

not every capitalist believes the same as i but there are basic principles

2018-05-01 15:19:40 UTC  

are there not?

2018-05-01 15:19:58 UTC  

aye aye captain

2018-05-01 15:20:18 UTC  

Yes they all want the means of production in the hands of the workers (unless you are a marxist-leninist because they always seem to delay that as much as possible)

2018-05-01 15:20:32 UTC  

why is that desirable then?

2018-05-01 15:21:02 UTC  

where is the economic incentive in taking the production away from investors

2018-05-01 15:21:17 UTC  

will they not simply move to other countries?

2018-05-01 15:21:53 UTC  

well the "means" of production meaning the factories?

2018-05-01 15:22:13 UTC  

or any business that employs people

2018-05-01 15:22:39 UTC  

That's part of the problem many socialist revolutions have had as they usually close themselves from outside trade which doesn't work well

2018-05-01 15:23:15 UTC  

This is getting boring

2018-05-01 15:23:15 UTC  

Also the production will serve to help the workers and not a third party such as investors if they manage it

2018-05-01 15:23:18 UTC  

Uhh

2018-05-01 15:23:19 UTC  

c y a

2018-05-01 15:23:21 UTC  

The thing is, if somebody sits on the hydraulic press, who is going to stop him?

2018-05-01 15:23:24 UTC  

@Orc basically

2018-05-01 15:23:52 UTC  

if nobody is cutting out metal sheets, and everyone wants to press them into bowls, eventually we'll have no metal sheets

2018-05-01 15:23:58 UTC  

it crushes economic incentive, if i wanted to start a business in your country and i knew that you would simply steal it from me, why would i want to do so?

2018-05-01 15:24:05 UTC  

there is no incentive there

2018-05-01 15:24:09 UTC  

To fix this problem, we have someone who directs the workers

2018-05-01 15:24:15 UTC  

there is order there

2018-05-01 15:24:19 UTC  

There is still a demand from citizens or other countries

2018-05-01 15:24:21 UTC  

@mods ban me you faggots

2018-05-01 15:24:34 UTC  

but he doesn't do hand work, because hes busy directing everyone

2018-05-01 15:24:45 UTC  

to make sure the factory is running long enough so everyone can have a bowl

2018-05-01 15:24:54 UTC  

Managers aren't a problem they are still considered a needed job

2018-05-01 15:25:00 UTC  

Ok

2018-05-01 15:25:07 UTC  

Managers are workers.

2018-05-01 15:25:26 UTC  

So who decides who to get the bowls to first?

2018-05-01 15:25:26 UTC  

you know what i find funny, it's mainly the working class that opposes communism

2018-05-01 15:25:41 UTC  

@everyone

2018-05-01 15:25:49 UTC  

@everyone

2018-05-01 15:25:52 UTC  

@everyone

2018-05-01 15:25:55 UTC  

@everyone

2018-05-01 15:25:55 UTC  

@Teddy that's my problem with marxist-leninist states that force you to give property to the state and not even the workers

2018-05-01 15:25:58 UTC  
2018-05-01 15:25:58 UTC  

@everyone