You realize not all communists are the same either right

not all people are the same

some are men, some are women

no, but i'm sure they must share a common belief of some kind

As in there are many different tendencies

not every capitalist believes the same as i but there are basic principles

are there not?

aye aye captain

Yes they all want the means of production in the hands of the workers (unless you are a marxist-leninist because they always seem to delay that as much as possible)

why is that desirable then?

https://i.imgur.com/O8PdnAh.jpg

where is the economic incentive in taking the production away from investors

will they not simply move to other countries?

well the "means" of production meaning the factories?

or any business that employs people

That's part of the problem many socialist revolutions have had as they usually close themselves from outside trade which doesn't work well

This is getting boring

Also the production will serve to help the workers and not a third party such as investors if they manage it

Uhh

c y a

The thing is, if somebody sits on the hydraulic press, who is going to stop him?

@Orc basically

if nobody is cutting out metal sheets, and everyone wants to press them into bowls, eventually we'll have no metal sheets

it crushes economic incentive, if i wanted to start a business in your country and i knew that you would simply steal it from me, why would i want to do so?

there is no incentive there

To fix this problem, we have someone who directs the workers

there is order there

There is still a demand from citizens or other countries

@mods ban me you faggots

but he doesn't do hand work, because hes busy directing everyone

to make sure the factory is running long enough so everyone can have a bowl

Managers aren't a problem they are still considered a needed job

Ok

Managers are workers.

So who decides who to get the bowls to first?

you know what i find funny, it's mainly the working class that opposes communism

@everyone

@everyone

@everyone

@everyone

@Teddy that's my problem with marxist-leninist states that force you to give property to the state and not even the workers